I'm shopping for a 1911. Any help?

[Bawanna]

Too clarify in my own infinitely and admittedly small mind. The R1S is the mil spec, no beaver tail version. The one you put that beautiful wide spur hammer on .

That's a pretty overwhelming endorsement.

I think your a very bad influence on me too.

[gb6491]

Too clarify in my own infinitely and admittedly small mind. The R1S is the mil spec, no beaver tail version. The one you put that beautiful wide spur hammer on .

That's a pretty overwhelming endorsement.

I think your a very bad influence on me too.

That would be correct, the R1S and SA Mil-Spec have similar features.
It is the one I put that wide spur hammer on:

BTW, I thought you might appreciate this:

Regards,
Greg

[Barth]

The TRP is hardly an entry level 1911

No kidding? LOL.
IMHO - Model for model, option for option,
Springfield matches up well with like guns from other manufacturers.
When you consider warranty, Customer Service and length of track record too.
I still stand by my recommendation.

Springfield = Value

That said I've never actually owned a 1911.
So please disregard everything I've posted - LOL!

I'm still thinking Springfield Range Officer.
Just wish they came in stainless.
What's entry level to you.
May not be entry level to me.

[gb6491]

No kidding? LOL....

Beyond all the kookiness.
When I think of quality entry level 1911s?
Seems like I keep coming back to Springfield.

GI, Mil Spec, Range Officer, Loaded, TRP.
IMHO, for the money, any flavor of Springfield seems like a safe bet.

No kidding. Your previous post seemed to read as if you were touting the TRP as an entry level pistol. If I misread that, my apologies. If you do consider it to be one, then more power to you sir.

...IMHO - Model for model, option for option,
Springfield matches up well with like guns from other manufacturers.
When you consider warranty, Customer Service and length of track record too.
I still stand by my recommendation.

Springfield = Value

I don't disagree with you, simply said there are other guns out there just as good , if not better. These guns also have excellent warranty, CS, and reputation (RIA in particular).

...That said I've never actually owned a 1911.
So please disregard everything I've posted - LOL!

I'm still thinking Range Officer.
Just wish they came in stainless.
What's entry level to you?
May not be entry level to me.

That's true; "entry" level speaks to me a basic GI style pistol or a slightly enhanced 1911: GI or better sights with a drift adjustable rear, decent level of fit/finish, perhaps a flared/lowered ejection port. Barrel bushing most likely "drop in". This also a cost driven pistol to me; sub $800 (though Colt Government Models are going to run above that).

Regards,
Greg

BTW, the RO is a value packed pistol at it's price point.
Here's the one I used to own:

[Barth]

No kidding. Your previous post seemed to read as if you were touting the TRP as an entry level pistol. If I misread that, my apologies. If you do consider it to be one, then more power to you sir.


I don't disagree with you, simply said there are other guns out there just as good , if not better. These guns also have excellent warranty, CS, and reputation (RIA in particular).

That's true; "entry" level speaks to me a basic GI style pistol or a slightly enhanced 1911: GI or better sights with a drift adjustable rear, decent level of fit/finish, perhaps a flared/lowered ejection port. Barrel bushing most likely "drop in". This also a cost driven pistol to me; sub $800 (though Colt Government Models are going to run above that).

Regards,
Greg

You absolutely misunderstand.
No one in their right mind would consider a TRP entry level.
I don't know about options.
But price wise a 1911 for $849 seems entry level to me.
Springfield RANGE OFF 5" 7RD 45BL
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/70940

[Bawanna]

Personally at almost 900 bucks I would consider the Range Officer at the extreme high end of entry level.
It's a very nice gun and it's been on my list with many others for a long time.
I've held several and everything about them is top notch.

There are many 1911's 600 and well under that would be more entry level.

I don't think anyone would be disappointed with a Range Officer. It's got a lot of the TRP nice features at less dollars.

[Barth]

Personally at almost 900 bucks I would consider the Range Officer at the extreme high end of entry level.
It's a very nice gun and it's been on my list with many others for a long time.
I've held several and everything about them is top notch.

There are many 1911's 600 and well under that would be more entry level.

I don't think anyone would be disappointed with a Range Officer. It's got a lot of the TRP nice features at less dollars.

Well crap.
If we are talking ~$600 I'd have to go with RIA.
Now look what you made me do? LOL!

[Bawanna]

Well crap.
If we are talking ~$600 I'd have to go with RIA.
Now look what you made me do? LOL!

Hold your head up son. I'm gonna get a RIA myself. I really want a R1S like Greg but it's just enough out of reach that I might go RIA to play with.
I wish they had stainless models, it would probably be good enough.

I think they have plated models but I really don't want one of those.

Smart thing for me is to wait and save some marbles and get the R1 but me and marbles don't stay together very long at all. I gotta jump with the marbles I got before they get ate up by unimportant crap like carpet and wood floors, refrigerators, food and junk we don't really need.

[Barth]

Hold your head up son. I'm gonna get a RIA myself. I really want a R1S like Greg but it's just enough out of reach that I might go RIA to play with.
I wish they had stainless models, it would probably be good enough.

I think they have plated models but I really don't want one of those.

Smart thing for me is to wait and save some marbles and get the R1 but me and marbles don't stay together very long at all. I gotta jump with the marbles I got before they get ate up by unimportant crap like carpet and wood floors, refrigerators, food and junk we don't really need.

LOL - I'm right there with you old friend.
I just want a 1911 that will out shoot my USP45 Tactical.
And I'm afraid a $600 1911 won't cut that cake.


On a brighter note; My S&W 65-3 3" revolver is still a shooter -

[Bawanna]

I would not wager a large sum on that deal, I think some RIA's I've heard of might run with it.

Course wouldn't you feel bad if a 450 dollar RIA out shot your HK Tactical at what 4 times the cost.

Invest in a 1911 in the price range of that HK and my bet would be on the 1911 all day long. Using a semi experienced shooter not completely comfortable with either platform for an even playing field.

Your pure HK through and through, you really shouldn't risk that love affair with anything else.

[gb6491]

LOL - I'm right there with you old friend.
I just want a 1911 that will out shoot my USP45 Tactical.
And I'm afraid a $600 1911 won't cut that cake.

Not knowing what range that is, it's hard to say, but you might be surprised.
You can find the basic Remington R1 and R1S in the $600-650 range (there's one on GB for $400 at the moment) and they shoot pretty well.
Here's a couple of magazines through my R1S at 10 yds. standing:

Here's quite a few more rounds from my RIA (sub $500) at the same distance/standing right out of the box:

FWIW, I shoot rather quickly and either gun can probably do better in other hands.
Regards,
Greg

[Barth]

I would not wager a large sum on that deal, I think some RIA's I've heard of might run with it.

Course wouldn't you feel bad if a 450 dollar RIA out shot your HK Tactical at what 4 times the cost.

Invest in a 1911 in the price range of that HK and my bet would be on the 1911 all day long. Using a semi experienced shooter not completely comfortable with either platform for an even playing field.

Your pure HK through and through, you really shouldn't risk that love affair with anything else.

Wise words from a good friend.
I think you may be very right on all counts.

[Barth]

Not knowing what range that is, it's hard to say, but you might be surprised.
You can find the basic Remington R1 and R1S in the $600-650 range (there's one on GB for $400 at the moment) and they shoot pretty well.
Here's a couple of magazines through my R1S at 10 yds. standing:

Here's quite a few more rounds from my RIA (sub $500) at the same distance/standing right out of the box:

FWIW, I shoot rather quickly and either gun can probably do better in other hands.
Regards,
Greg

I'm usually at ~15 yards.
Rented a Kimber Super Carry Custom HD and easily bested the HK Tactical.
The Colonel is dead on with his assessment.

[Bawanna]

Damn, I read the Colonel is dead and momentarily stopped. I thought Mein Gott, I've really done it this time. Death threats on kahrtalk.

Then my heart resumed beating and I completed the sentence and realized that for however briefly it might be I received an stay of execution.

[Barth]

Damn, I read the Colonel is dead and momentarily stopped. I thought Mein Gott, I've really done it this time. Death threats on kahrtalk.

Then my heart resumed beating and I completed the sentence and realized that for however briefly it might be I received an stay of execution.

Poor choice of words on my part.
And a hell of a way to take a complement on yours - LOL.