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    Is there a new P380 magazine design?

    I recently purchased a new magazine for my P380 (6 round). The feed lips seem to be shorter and they also have a different side profile. It seems to function better than the original 6 rounder. I don't think if fixed the fanning as they both appear to be the same but the new mag does allow the the top bullet to spring up faster and stay that way. With the old mag, I would insert it into the gun and the round would scoot forward causing nose dives with hollow points. Keep in mind I have not fired with this new mag but I did insert each one loaded into my pistol 5 times each. With the original the top bullet would scoot forward and down but with the new magazine the top bullet would stay in place. I like it better. Here are some pics. The new mag is on the left side on all of these pics. Let me know what you all think.








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  • #2
    Someone else was commenting on shorter lips but I can't remember if it was a P380 mag though.
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    • #3
      Maybe it's just me but it looks like a thicker metal and machined sharper. Also, if those are full mags, it doesn't appear to flex as much spreading the lips. This should put the round leaving the mag more controlled and fewer feed fails.

      I hope this is leading into the other calibers soon.
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      • #4
        Looks to me like the same mag with the front part of the lip ground off. Be interesting to see if this changes the failure to feed rate. I hope so. I really want one of those little babies.

        Be sure to tell us if you notice any difference.
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        • #5
          I just bought an RC89xx P380 for Wifey and both the 6 and the 7-round mags are the "improved" versions like that. Nice catch, frbejarano, and thanks for the post. I'll look for a difference when I get around to testing this one. I haven't looked at my other mags, but I have 7 or 8 working 6-rounders and at least 3 of the 7-rounders for my own. That might be a nice mod to try. It ain't like I haven't ruined more than a few mags with modding!

          Wynn
          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
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          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

          Thomas Jefferson said

          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
          and
          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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          • #6
            There's some beveling on the lips of the magazine well, too, something not on my RA61xx. There may be other changes. I need to get this new one to the range... just been busy.

            Wynn
            USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
            Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
            Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

            Thomas Jefferson said

            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
            and
            "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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            • #7
              You also need to get us some pictures.
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              CZ 452 ZKM Special
              Walther P22
              LMT STD 16
              Mossberg 500A
              Kahr P380
              Henry H001Y
              Winchester 12
              Smith & Wesson M&P Shield
              Mossberg 500B
              Marlin 336Y
              Kahr MK9
              Kel-Tec KSG
              Smith &Wesson M686+

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              • #8
                Yeah, but one looks just like another... 'cept mine has a little wear... and NS.

                Wynn
                USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                Thomas Jefferson said

                “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                and
                "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                • #9
                  And a beveled mag well that the other one doesn't have.
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                  CZ 452 ZKM Special
                  Walther P22
                  LMT STD 16
                  Mossberg 500A
                  Kahr P380
                  Henry H001Y
                  Winchester 12
                  Smith & Wesson M&P Shield
                  Mossberg 500B
                  Marlin 336Y
                  Kahr MK9
                  Kel-Tec KSG
                  Smith &Wesson M686+

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                  • #10
                    The new pistol's sights are a lot lower profile. The "post" is very short and the top of the dot is just about the top of the front sight.

                    The bottom of the old grip is "shorn" and flattened with little or no bevel in the mag well. The new one's rounded at the bottom and beveled a bit.

                    The new has two screws in the side plate.

                    Wynn
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                    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                    Thomas Jefferson said

                    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                    and
                    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                    • #11
                      I just ran across these images from my Cold War Days. I got the .50 BMG "dummies" at the last gun show... no powder or primer... 2 for $5.

                      The finish on the barrel of the new gun is really dark... not "polished".

                      Wynn
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                      USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                      Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                      Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                      Thomas Jefferson said

                      “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                      and
                      "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OldLincoln View Post
                        Maybe it's just me but it looks like a thicker metal and machined sharper. Also, if those are full mags, it doesn't appear to flex as much spreading the lips. This should put the round leaving the mag more controlled and fewer feed fails.

                        I hope this is leading into the other calibers soon.
                        It doesn't appear to be thicker but I have not measured. The mags were full.

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                        • #13
                          I'll get around to measuring them eventually, but I have to get back to work on my new front door. The painters start Monday and I have a few projects to complete... painting the inside of the new front door and then installing it.

                          I modified three or so of my first .380 mags by trying to put detents on the rear of the lips... I can still use a couple, but one would no longer retain cartridges and was spare parts. Kahr actually replaced one of those when I sent my P380 back for the second time... to stop the random slide lock-backs with ammo remaining (the first was for the DOA front NS). They returned the "bad" one and it works fine and is the one in my P380 now. I noticed that when taking pictures.

                          Wynn
                          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                          Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                          Thomas Jefferson said

                          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                          and
                          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                          • #14
                            I have four P380 magazines with three different feed lip lengths. I contacted Kahr and was told that they have shortened the length to improve feeding. I measured mine and found no difference other than length. If you look at the front of the feed lips on the shorter ones, you can see where the have been machined. I think they have modified the existing stock of magazines. I may try to shorten one of the longer ones although I have not had feed issues with any of them. The shorter one seems to feed better when racking by hand. ( It still doesn't work great by hand though )

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                            • #15
                              Nice pics. I have 3 of the old style mags and I have been going to trim a little of from those lips but haven't got to it yet and your pics. will help. Cutting them back to resemble the new mag will be a good starting point.

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