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    Kahr trigger work?

    So here is the story. I have a cw45 that I absolutely love and rave about anytime I get the chance. My roomate and good friend bought a matching cw45 because he felt his xd45 was too big and bulky for everyday carry. He does not seem to like the trigger so far, he has only put about 150 rds through it so far. I have put close to 1500 rds through mine and am just now reachin what I feel my peak of accuracy is. I mean this gun no doubt makes me look good. I think my buddy will learn to love the trigger as much as me but if he does not does anyone know of a good company that does trigger work on Kahrs. Any knowledge or expirience you could share would be great. Personally I think he is still adjusting or just down right crazy because I am shooting this gun better than any other pistol I have ever shot hands down, but I would rather see him get a trigger he can shoot comfortably than get rid of a great gun.
    Thanks, Price
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    Is it the pull weight or travel distance that he's having a problem with?
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    • #3
      n do yourself is buy the 5# striker spring from wolffs and installit in teh slide and it will reduce trigger poundage froma bout 7.5# downto 5# with zero effects on the gun. IT WILLNOT SHORTEN TRIGGER PULL. the pull will remain at 3/8". that is the design of the kahr.

      Other than that spring change, the upper slide parts are smooth as glass also and if you have 1500 rounds through your kahr, then indeed it is wellsmoothed out that IMO evan an upper slide smoothn you nothing. What I am saying here is this. LEAVE THE GUN ALONE. you wll be waisting good money (as I did) for nothing. I have never seen a smoother trigger system better than a kahr, sure some alot shorter but again this is by design with kahr and ur not gonna change that Leave it be and just go out and conitune shootign it like you stole it..
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      • #4
        I've often wondered how Kahr measures the length of pull of the trigger. At what point on the trigger is this measure taken? My guess is from the middle of the trigger. Anyone know?
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        • #5
          Standard method is to pull the trigger till slack is taken out (resistance met) and pull with a scale. If you pull at the top of the trigger, the weight will be high, if you pull at the bottom, it will be low.
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          • #6
            not sure how kahr measures it but there is no slack in a kahr trigger. If one will pull the slide off and just touch the trigger, you will see that the trigger bar is on the move. No slop in kahrs triggers. Just looooong by design 3/8" doesn't seem long but put it u against a glock or Smity M & P and it certainly is..
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jocko View Post
              not sure how kahr measures it but there is no slack in a kahr trigger. If one will pull the slide off and just touch the trigger, you will see that the trigger bar is on the move. No slop in kahrs triggers. Just looooong by design 3/8" doesn't seem long but put it u against a glock or Smity M & P and it certainly is..

              I've got a slight amount before the sear engages the striker
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              • #8
                I had my first outing with my PM9 yesterday. The trigger felt like a longer pull and stiffer than a P9. Is that correct? The P9 has been used more.

                I'm going to spend more time with it before I change anything. Lighter and less travel was my wish on the first time out with it though.
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                • #9
                  u might be right

                  Originally posted by jeep45238 View Post
                  I've got a slight amount before the sear engages the striker
                  but I did not make that statement. When you touch that trigger the trigger bar is on the move, as to when it actually engages the striker I cannot say. I just can't say what way kahr measures the 3/8" pull. It could very well be the striker, but in theory, that would not be right either, for they make the NYPD trigger system which is 1/2" travel, and the striker system is exactly the same, so the only change has to be in the trigger and where the trigger bar actually goes into the trigger to get that additional length of pull..

                  Probably no set industry standard for acutal trigger lenght.
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                  • #10
                    same

                    Originally posted by Alfonse View Post
                    I had my first outing with my PM9 yesterday. The trigger felt like a longer pull and stiffer than a P9. Is that correct? The P9 has been used more.

                    I'm going to spend more time with it before I change anything. Lighter and less travel was my wish on the first time out with it though.
                    trigger system exactly but the P9 being used more, IMO the kahr trigger systems do smooth up some what, not alot for they are smooth in the first place. Proabably no two striker springs will measure exactly the same poundage either,so there could be a slight feel difference,but it will be in poundage only and not in actual trigger travel, which si 3/8" on each model..
                    You can indeed go lighter but you won't go shorter travel, not that I would even want that either. Tghat is the only safety on your kahr is the looooong trigger travel before the BOOM thing ..
                    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                    • #11
                      Thanks Jocko

                      I'll give it more range time. I couldn't imagine that there was much design difference between the P9 and PM9. The gun is beautiful. A bit more time, and it will be feeling just like home. Thanks for clarifying the P9 and PM9 are actually the same trigger mechanism.
                      Aftermarket accessories for Kahr Pistols at https://lakelinellc.com/
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                      • #12
                        What I personally did to mine:

                        Fired up the dremel, and got metal polish meant for hard metals (stick kind for me personally), and grabbed a felt wheel.

                        I polished the front and rear of the sear that engages the striker, the top of the sear that engages the firing pin block, the trigger bar where it rubs against the grip panels, the striker, striker spacer, striker channel, extractor pins and extractor where it rubs against the slide, and the trigger face.

                        After a cleaning, shooting and cleaning to remove any abrasives left behind, and lubing like normal - WOW is the trigger smoooooooooth and lighter. All components have a mirror finish, which recuded friction on the nickle plated surfaces. Everybody who hated the Kahr before is now seriously considering purchasing one.

                        Total time : less than 1 hour.
                        ~Mike F.
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                        • #13
                          thats all that cylinder and slide does and they want to charge $200 to do it. You did a nice job, glad it helped..
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                          • #14
                            Jeep, Could you post a pic of where you exactly polished, as I am not sure which parts you worked on.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rjmcw9 View Post
                              Jeep, Could you post a pic of where you exactly polished, as I am not sure which parts you worked on.

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