Proper prep of a new kahr

[BroncoAZ]

CRC brand non chlorinated brake clean ate the coating off of the oil pan on my truck last year, I'll pass on using it on my guns. The hazards to the user are not good either. At least use it outside to avoid inhaling the vapors.

Here is the MSDS for that 3M 08880 product:
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawe...9lxtD7SSSSSS--

[jocko]

Heh, thats fine, I can tell u that I have used it for over 6 years, on my G19, Smith M & P, Kahrs, Rugers and probably hundreds have used it on this forum with not one issue with the polymer or steel. spray guns scrubber, hoppes#9, 3 #m on wood finish grips and it will damage them, painted surfaces are alot different than polymer and steel. That is a no brainer for any gun cleaner. I will continue to recommend 3JM and similar non cholrinated products until someone can show me a melted polymer grip or damage metal. ain't gonna happen, but what ever floats ones boat is fine with me. I don't work for 3M but I know a good savings when I see and use it...

[BroncoAZ]

Jocko,

I have used non chlor brake clean on steel parts, but not polymer. As for the truck, the guy at Cummins told me the oil pans were painted and also had a polymer coating sprayed on top of the paint. I was cleaning the bottom of the engine and transmission to identify the source of an oil seep. Where the brake clean was forming drips on the bottom of the pan near the drain plug the coating bubbled and wiped off with a rag afterwards.

I was reading some interesting related threads on Glocktalk, the concensus over there seems 50/50, but the people supporting their arguement with chemistry agree with you.

[Bawanna]

Chemist agree with Jocko! I have a whole new respect for this man/biker/legend.

[jocko]

what ever

Jocko,

I have used non chlor brake clean on steel parts, but not polymer. As for the truck, the guy at Cummins told me the oil pans were painted and also had a polymer coating sprayed on top of the paint. I was cleaning the bottom of the engine and transmission to identify the source of an oil seep. Where the brake clean was forming drips on the bottom of the pan near the drain plug the coating bubbled and wiped off with a rag afterwards.

I was reading some interesting related threads on Glocktalk, the concensus over there seems 50/50, but the people supporting their arguement with chemistry agree with you.

I should not question those glock talk guys please show me a damaged polymer gun with 3M cleaner. It is not worth arguing about IMO. use what u want. I will continue to promote a good prodect and let the owners beware. By the way my son is an engineer at cummins in columbus, Ind. super company gorwing leaps and bounds. I have no idea what they spray their oil pans with but my contention is that a polymer based paint is far different than a total polymer product. I contend that most any spray cleaner will damage paint to a degree, some more than others.

stick with your good stuff, no problem from this fella.

[BroncoAZ]

I guess you didn't read my post. I was saying that the credible people agreed with you.

What is with the ban me smilie crap?

[Bawanna]

Yup, reread Jocko, Bronco AZ conceded that the smart fellas agree with ya.

Now don't make me come down there and cut a switch.

I cant believe chemist agree with Jocko, the man, the myth, the legend.

Can he say crap here? Hmm maybe so, maybe so.

[jocko]

No I understood I was referring to the 50% who disagree with me. no offense on the ban me, but over on the glock forum, those guys are hard on people who knock glocks , they protect their turff, which is understandble.. I have no chemical background, other than spray it on, if it doesn't melt, I give it a A+..

smart?? WTF, my son is a mechanical engineeer from one of the top engineering colleges in the country BUT ASK HIM TO CHANGE OIL IN HIS CAR???

[BroncoAZ]

I have both Glock and Kahr (3 now) and don't participate in the ford vs. chevy style debate. I just want my guns to be clean and last long. I haven't purchased a can of gun scrubber or similar products in 10 years. I clean the polymer with a damp cloth or qtips, usually no solvent required. If I need a solvent I use 70% diluted isopropyl alcohol, but that is usually only used on metal parts. Regular gun oil on a qtip also seems to break up most gunk reasonably well.

[Denny M]

Regarding #4 - Does it matter if the return spring is in the gun?

[jocko]

oh yes

Regarding #4 - Does it matter if the return spring is in the gun?

indeed, the recoil spring in the break in session of actual shooting will take a pre designed set, by hand racking your speeding up the process somewhat and also by hand racking with spring resistance the slide is working harder to mate itself with the lower section. I state 500 times, u can do what ever number you want, doesn't have to be all in one session. I can tell you it doesn't take long to rack the gun a couple hundred times...

[zhills]

[QUOTE=jocko;14512]Here are some helpful suggestions to set your new kahr up before heading to the range as compiled by Jocko, with the help of the forum members.



Proper prep of a new Kahr



I haven't recieved my CM9 yet, but should be here in the next couple of days. Ouestion I have several cleaning kits, and use them on my other guns, Will Hopps#9 solvent, Rem action spray cleaner, Rem Oil, and Hopps gun oil be acceptable for cleaning my New CM9?

I will follow your other prep suggestions also. Just did not want to have to
go buy more cleaning and lubing products if mine will be fine to use.
Carl

[jocko]

sure ur ok with what you have. use what u have, not a big deal, just getting the gun cleaned andlubed is the most important. enjoy the cm9,k that gun is just amazing..

[SuperGlide]

Spray Cleaner

I read through this thread and wondered if the carb cleaner I have will work. It's made by SuperTech (bought it at Wal*Mart) and says on the can "contains no methylene chloride." Elsewhere, it says it contains toluene, methanol and acetone. Any thoughts?

[zhills]

sure ur ok with what you have. use what u have, not a big deal, just getting the gun cleaned andlubed is the most important. enjoy the cm9,k that gun is just amazing..

How come you do not lube the striker channel after cleanining with the
3M #08880? I usually do the same with my LCP but put a shot of rem oil
very small shot I might add in the top hole over the striker, I haven't had any problems. Should I not lube the LCP striker channel also?

Would emmery paper work in place of the 600 grit sandpaper when working on the magazine?