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But can you hit anything?Originally posted by muggsy View PostI can draw and empty my CM9 in under two seconds. What's the problem?
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On rare occasions.Originally posted by yqtszhj View PostBut can you hit anything?
just playing.
I've never understood this fascination with short trigger resets. You still have to recover from recoil. My trigger is reset long before the sights settle. It's a truly lazy man who doesn't want to move his finger a 1/2".
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It whatit is
my suggestion if u want a short stroke semi that is small buy the kimber solo. Lets leave kahrs design just the way t is. Its like asking " can u shorten the stroke on my Model 60 smith. It is what it isOriginally posted by Tancred View PostIs there a kit available to shorten the reset on a Kahr?
. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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my 21 cents
ur not gonna shoot a kahr as good as a 1911 single action, ur not gonna shoot a kahr as good as a kmber solo,more than likely ur not gonna shoot a kahr as good as s glock even. there are no safetys on a kahr utter than ur finer sticking in ur nose. It is there by design. I shoot my PMJ9 terrible compared tomy G19. Just no comparison. That being said, my G19 sits at home while my PMJ9 rides in my front pocket 24/7. I don't expect 2"groups at 7 yards with my Kahr, The gun can do it, I just cannot, and if u truly think in a SHTFOriginally posted by yqtszhj View PostBut can you hit anything?
just playing.
If one has shot a wheel gun for years he certainly knows the long double action is not near as accurate as whenin the single action mode, BUT IT IS SAFER BY FAR.
Kahr does now offer the enhanced PM9 with external safety and now a 1/4" trigger travel, which is damn near as close as a glock.I call that hairy for pcket use but the exteralsafety makes it a safe pocket carry, but again willbitch thatis has an external safety. Not sure your gonna get a hairy trigger and no external safety. I certainly would not want that 1/4" travel for pocket carry and no safety.
The reset stuff IMO , I never even think about. it is so automatic with shooting. One has to let up on a revolver even to let it reset, we seem to accept that.
semper vulgare. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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When you look at so many police shooting incidents and see how few of the many bullets fired hit their target, you understand that many shooters let instinct take over and all they can do is go bang,bang,bang,bang... as fast as they can. As fast as they are trying to launch bullets, a shorter reset is helpful. The instinctual thinking is that, if bullets are flying at you, you must get that stopped RIGHT NOW! The next millisecond could be lights out. And throwing lots of bullets back at them seems the quickest way to accomplish that. It's really more of a combat situation, but without the automatic weapons.Originally posted by muggsy View PostOn rare occasions.Originally posted by yqtszhj View PostBut can you hit anything?
just playing.
I've never understood this fascination with short trigger resets. You still have to recover from recoil. My trigger is reset long before the sights settle. It's a truly lazy man who doesn't want to move his finger a 1/2".
I carry small, thin, CC handguns and rarely carry an extra mag. So I am going to be more deliberate with my shots. And my intention is self defense, whereas police can go into offensive mode, pursue bad guys and engage them. I only hope that, with the insulin rush, I will be able to resist the urge to empty my mag without careful aim.Very interesting...
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Iwould imagineto get a shorter reset, then ur gonnaget shorter trigger travel,which in kahrs case and esignbwasnever meaantto be. Ifthey could shorten the trigger reset and not the travel part,I would think kahr would have done that. Probably both need to go together in oder to keep the gun simple in designto, which kahrs are very simple in design.I just always fetl that in a SHTF situationur not watingtohear the trigger click to reset like somd will do from whatI hear or, did I releaseit enough now to let me pullthetrigger again., thatis simply guess work, one shoots a gu, he lets off the trigger so it can do its thing and the matteris over. I wold thinkthose guns that suposablyhave a short reset tha tonestill releases the trigger aolot mor ethan he thinks, certainly if u release alltheway and let thge trigger aloneto reset, ur gonna be 100%sure thatit is now reset insteadof jk"didI releaseit enough to now pull the trigger again, so I thinkI did and I now pull the trigger only to find out I didn't let it reset enough. For me not the way I want myt kahr to work, nor my guessin part with the reset either. I really don't see this costing anyone their lives eihter. Resets in every gun is basically differentl We seemedot adjust to wheel guns OK. Not arguing with anyone here, but as u know kahrs arewhatthey are,I would not change them in asecond. Seems most owners who own more than one kahr will have said to himself,"I'm cool with the trigger system"
I don't know if the enhanced version is out on the market yet with the kahrs but I have not read here of anyone havng one and reporting etc. They enhanced it 1/8". For me I just cannot callthat a deal breaker one way or the utter... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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Regardless, J., you still have to recover from recoil. I suppose if you plan on missing a lot you should do it rather quickly to avoid embarrassment. I fully intend to shoot first and hit what I aim at. That will give me more time for my follow up shot to the head and I won't have to worry about the long reset.Originally posted by JFootin View PostWhen you look at so many police shooting incidents and see how few of the many bullets fired hit their target, you understand that many shooters let instinct take over and all they can do is go bang,bang,bang,bang... as fast as they can. As fast as they are trying to launch bullets, a shorter reset is helpful. The instinctual thinking is that, if bullets are flying at you, you must get that stopped RIGHT NOW! The next millisecond could be lights out. And throwing lots of bullets back at them seems the quickest way to accomplish that. It's really more of a combat situation, but without the automatic weapons.
I carry small, thin, CC handguns and rarely carry an extra mag. So I am going to be more deliberate with my shots. And my intention is self defense, whereas police can go into offensive mode, pursue bad guys and engage them. I only hope that, with the insulin rush, I will be able to resist the urge to empty my mag without careful aim.Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.
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at 7 yards I can keep them on a 6 inch paper plate shooting as fast as I can get the sights on target --- never even noticed the trigger reset --- focused only on getting on target and pulling smooth ---- rinse and repeat ====O|||||||O
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That sounds good, Muggsy. But when the adrenalin dump happens, especially if there is a gun pointed at you and likely to be fired in the next millisecond, all that goes out the window. We don't know what might happen. Probably a pretty good chance that someone will get the drop on you. All you can do is to train, practice situational awareness and hope for the best.Originally posted by muggsy View PostRegardless, J., you still have to recover from recoil. I suppose if you plan on missing a lot you should do it rather quickly to avoid embarrassment. I fully intend to shoot first and hit what I aim at. That will give me more time for my follow up shot to the head and I won't have to worry about the long reset.Very interesting...
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