I am seriously dissapointed with my bland new T-9...

[mity2]

Bought bland new T-9 yeasterday.
Serial number is PA101x. Not sure of exact manufacture date, but print on night sight says 2010.
Haven't made it to the range yet. As far as I know, gun was test fired at the factory only.

And this is what my bore looks like after hours of cleaning!



Gents, I know its hard to see, but that is a pitted bore on bland new gun!!!
I have been cleaning this barrel for the past 3 hours. Its not coming off.
(Im going to run over to my gunshop tomorrow to confirm, just be certain)
This is beyond dissapointing. Im darn right pissed!
This bland new, almost $1000 weapon needs to go back to them, I believe I have to pay both shipping BTW, and wait 2 to 3 weeks for them to send this gun back to me.

I sold off two of my guns so that I have enough money to order one. I havent even shot the stinking gun yet WTF?!

(Sorry for the rant. But Im little upset right this very moment...)

[jeep45238]

Um....how are you cleaning? With what solvents? With a new brush or old? Tight fitting brass jag?



Could be anything from a pitted stainless steel barrel (not likely) or a ****** cleaning method being employed.

[mity2]

I used Hoppe's #9, M-Pro7 Copper remover, and No.10 Copper cutter by kleenbore.

I used somewhat used Phosphor Bronze Bore Brush made by Kleenbore for .38/.357/9mm.
When that didn't do the trick, I opened new pakage of same brush, but that didn't do the trick either.

Jeep, your right. Pitted stainless steel barrel is not likely(I got cooled off a bit after I posted my orignal post, and thought about how unlikely that really is).

There is definatly something there tho. I used Hard Nylon pick I use to scrape off residue off of bleech face which has 90degree bent tip on it, and I can feel through that(and I also tried to scrape whatever off with it as well with no luck)

I'm gonna hit up local gunsmith tomorrow morning, and have him look at it. May be my cleaning method isn't working(although I never had any issue cleaning all my other pistols). May be he have something better that he can try?
After if everything else fails, then I'll contact Kahr CS...

[ripley16]

It does look like shooting residue. I wouldn't ship the barrel back quite yet. Bores, even polygonal, can be hard to get spotless. My HK bores also will streak and they are beautifully finished, shiny and mirror like when new.

Hoppes new Elite cleaner works well in bores. I've been using it for a few months now with very good results. I spray some in the chamber, run a brush through a few times to dispurse the chemical and let it alone for a few minutes to work. Then I brush it again, swab it and run a final jag. I've gotten bores more streak free than I've seen in a long time.

Shoot your new T9 before you decide anything. It won't matter warranty wise one way or the other.

[Jim K]

The pits

These barrels are nickel plated. The pitting that you see in the bore is most likely problems with nickel adhesion. I guess that Kahr sends the barrels out of house for plating and therefore cannot control the quality of the product.

Contact customer support. I think they will fix the problem quickly. They are nice folks.

I understand your frustration with this problem and I wonder how Kahr lets this kind of thing slip past their QA or QC. You have a right to be pissed and I hope someone who counts reads your post. We all expect more from Kahr and do not accept a few lemons to slip through while comparing to a lesser brand. You paid top dollar for your pistol so you should get top quality pistol that works 100% right out of the box.

Hello Kahr, anybody home?

[mity2]

I am going to shoot it before I do anything. As mentioned, it wouldn't matter in term of warrenty anyway

I did speak with Kahr CS about this few min ago, and they basicaly said that I can just send barrel in for warrenty. No RA needed. And guy at CS said once they get it in their hand, inspect it, send either new or fixed(? guy did say being its so new - he said date of manufacure is mid September of this year. Its less then few weeks old - They'll likely just send me a new barrel) barrel back to me should take no more then week or so.

So at least it doesn't look like I have to wait too long if I need to send it back in case my gunsmith is unable to remove it.
Jim K is right tho. I understand that sometimes things like this happen to any manufacture, but the level of frustration goes through the stratosphere when it happened to YOUR firearm that you just paid alot of money for. Specialy if its such a low volume production gun...

[Bawanna]

I too agree with JimK. I also believe it won't cost you one thin dime to get the problem corrected except for maybe some Tums for upset stomach which is understandable. I'd be seeking a return pickup from Kahr and send er back. Let them install and fit the barrel properly and check for any other quality control snafus.
This is hard for me to say since I'm the king of impatience, I'd likely be driving east to stomp somebody but it's the correct thing to do.
I hope it all gets fixed up quick like and your back on track and loving that thing.

[mity2]

well, my gunshop inspected it, and confirmed that it is infact pitting inside of barrel.

They called Kahr(hoping to persuade someone to send him a new barrel, and send mine back when it shows up so that I have no down time), but they are now saying I have to send the complete gun back, so that tech can inspect, and fit the new barrel in the gun or something like that.
I thought Kahr barrel is drop in?

In anycase, gun I had for a 2 days that I didn't have chance to shoot is on its way back to Kahr. And who knows how long its gonna be before it comes back....

I'm beyound frustrated now...

[Bawanna]

I'd wager a small sum it won't be long. It's a simple fix and should be pretty quick to get headed back.

[Warhammer]

Bought bland new T-9 yeasterday... that is a pitted bore on bland new gun!!! ... This bland new, almost $1000 weapon...

"Bland" new?

[wyntrout]

Chinese pronunciation??

[dusty10]

"Bland" new?

I thought maybe it was a new model.

[Warhammer]

I thought maybe he thought it was too plain looking.

[OldLincoln]

I think you did the right thing sending it back before being fired. Look at it this way, if their QC missed a pitted barrel what else might they have overlooked? As for fitting the barrel to the slide, I recently read about a pistol that locked up due to barrel/slide lug peening. On another forum I read about checking out stuff I took for granted and I'm not talking about Kahr. Most gun mfgs have a few slip through.

I've heard nothing but praise for Glocks, they never break and will shoot after squishing around in mud and so forth. Then I found a forum that reads out all the documented problems they have had and brings reality into the picture.

On the 1911 forums, even names (read $$$$) you would not believe have issues once in a while. So consider Kahr fallible and when you get it back check it over real well, then shoot the dickens out of it. It's masochistic and loves to be spanked. The more it's shot the smoother and more reliable it becomes.

[Seahawk60]

"Bland" new?

+1 on "bland". What it has no flavor or something?