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  • TW25b in place of gun oil?

    Just wondering if I could use TW25b gun grease in place of gun oil completely? Could I use it on all the recommended lube points in the Kahr lube diagram?


    Thanks so much,


    mywytefeet

  • #2
    Oil penetrates more easily into the spots grease can't be applied such as pins and rotating parts. Grease does best on surface areas of high wear, such as rails, and/or areas you don't want your lube to migrate too much.

    A little oil where needed and a little grease where needed is, IMHO, the best lube solution on the Kahr or any gun for that matter.
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    • #3
      Yes with the exception of #7 which shouldn't be lubed at all. That's the striker pin channel which does very well dry. However there is a risk of carbon from the firing getting into the channel through the pin opening and gumming if grease or oil is present.

      As for the rest of the gun, you need some oil with the ability to deliver it in small doses to small places. I use a wooden toothpick and sometimes rub the wet side of it on the bottle mouth to reduce the oil. When you have the slide off you can see the "typical" places to oil where stuff pivots or slides but you can't get grease to. I hit the trigger pivot, trigger bar joints, mag ejection button rod where it goes through the frame.

      I use a QTip with some of the fuzz removed to grease the front rails top & bottom. And I put some on my pinky finger to rub on the shiny surfaces and barrel opening in the slide which isn't mentioned in the lube diagram.

      When breaking-in you should apply more lube than you would after it is done. The process causes a lot of friction as metal parts rub together until the are smooth. The smoother the metal surfaces, the less friction, and less need for extra lube. I also use TW25 and think it's great stuff.
      Last edited by OldLincoln; 09-21-2011, 10:51 PM.
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      • #4
        Very timely post. I just purchased some TW25B after reading OLs earlier post. I have always used Ballistol and will continue to do so when cleaning the barrel and oiling springs, pivot points, etc. But tonight I put TW25B on all metal friction areas I could find. I also rubbed a good amount around the exterior of the barrel. Being a former Glock guy, I am always afraid of using too much grease (I have actually NEVER used any sort of grease, just Ballistol). Tonight I just rubbed enough TW25B to make the metal parts feel "greasy" so I hope I did not use too much. My plan is to use both Ballistol and TW25B on my guns. I have been the one posting about nosedive issues. Kahr cut my recoil spring stating that it caused a timing issue. I am attempting to do all I can to prep this CM9 for the range visit this weekend. I would think this TW25B stuff will work great on my steel frame CZ75B. Any other recommendations or thoughts on the use of the TW25B is greatly appreciated.

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        • #5
          what ripley says is about the right way to go. hoghunter ur Ok with your method IMO. just a dab goes a long way with TW25. It stays it doesn't dry out and it doesnt run. I rub my entire barrel with tw25 and the underside of the slide where the breech slides under it. The only line of actual TW25 that I lay anywhere is inside the slide rails, other than that I rub and smooth. Not like your gonna miss a part that is turing 25,000 rpms and lub is needed. If u miss a spot, u will get it the next time. I still contkend keeping he striker channel dry is the bestr way to treat that area, a few here disagree and again what ever floats one's boat is fine with me.
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          • #6
            As a grease, TW25b is a rather thin and runny grease. I've never really found it stayed put, as a grease, but always seemed to thin and run a bit. I like it for some things, and use it a bunch. Oil is good where it belongs (BreakFree CLP works for me), and I also use a thicker - very thick in fact - synthetic marine grease that sticks like monkey snot on a coconut. That stuff gets used for locking areas at the top and bottom of a barrel - because thats where the highest contact pressures are, and where "stay put-ness" is needed most.

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            • #7
              Monkey snot on a coconut? I'm writing this down, that is a fine piece of vocabulary right there. Kinda rolls off the tongue.
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              • #8
                !!! Ty !!!

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                • #9
                  When I was a kid we had Axle grease that was originally used on wagon axles to allow the wheel to spin on the wood. You could dip a couple fingers in it and although it was very stiff, when you pulled your finger up it would string up with big threads of grease that stretched forever. Then you'd clean your fingers, first with rags and then soap but you were stuck with that grease for the rest of the day.

                  Later, my second summer working, I had to pack wheel bearing grease from a 1/4 drum (small barrel) into 2lb tins. I only used my right hand to dip because if I got grease on my left I couldn't hold onto the tin. Not my favorite job but I made 50 cents an hour.

                  Now they have this molecular stuff that isn't even really grease in the petroleum sense, but a bunch of chemicals mixed together. I don't fully understand it but I know after shooting it's still there on my gun. May not see it, but run your finger on it and it definitely there.
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                  • #10
                    I remember that old axle grease, it was like monkey snot on a coconut but I got about 1.65 an hour. I vividly recall the stringy threads of monkey snot trailing behind as you took your hand from the can.
                    I didn't much like the job either.
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                    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                    Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                    Cue sound of Head slap.

                    RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                      I remember that old axle grease, it was like monkey snot on a coconut but I got about 1.65 an hour. I vividly recall the stringy threads of monkey snot trailing behind as you took your hand from the can.
                      I didn't much like the job either.
                      I see you got a chance to use the monkey snot analogy! LOL!
                      Very interesting...

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                      • #12
                        You only get so many chances in life, you don't want to let a single one slip by.

                        Slip? Grease, I made a pun just for fun? Crap maybe Jocko's right, I'm a poet and didn't know it.

                        I gotta go magically transform tall grass into short, I don't mind, astride my shiney red rider, nobody knows I'm a derelict, just a fat old man cutting grass, almost normble.

                        Later.

                        PS- I finished a sling for my Khukri, maybe I'll strap it on for the ride. Never mess witha fat old man cutting grass with a PM45 on his hip and a khuk slung from his shoulder. Leave him be........................
                        http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                        In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                        Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                        Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                        Cue sound of Head slap.

                        RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, just don't mind the touristas stopping to take pictures of the natives. Heck, I'd stop to get a picture of that.
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                          • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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                          • #14
                            My uncle's wicked quick with that coconut snot stuff!

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                            • #15
                              Wicked indeed, perhaps not as quick as I once was.

                              I know it doesn't involve grease or monkey snot on a coconut but a terrifying story to share.

                              I went to do the grass cutting and realized I didn't have any gas, didn't feel like going to town and I've been reorganizing the garage so I decided to continue with that and get my little boat back inside before the monsoons hit.

                              In the process of moving junk around I decide my son's Sportster is in my way. She's a heavy thing but pretty. I decide I don't got to move it much and I'll be really careful and I'll be ok. I pushed it backward a few feet and all was well. Did a little more stuff and decided I needed to move it forward about twice as far as I moved it back. I can do this.
                              I get about half way and the freaking kick stands folds up with no effort. Shear panic, sweats, holy I'm gonna drop it batman. That thing is heavy. It's all I can do to keep it centered and standing with both hands. I know if it shifts 2 degrees in either direction its all over and it will be on it's side for the first time in it's life and it will be my fault.

                              I held on for nearly 15 minutes thinking and pondering, nobody else home, no one in shouting distance, can't let go with one hand to discharge my PM45 as a distress signal............. I finally manage to hold it in the middle and quickly get the stand out part way, then caught it with my wheelchair wheel and popped it out. I really thought I was having the big one, probably just a little angina or shear panic.

                              After the wife got home I wanted to move it again, I figure with two of us, piece of cake. Even with two of us, she bumped the darn stand in and we nearly lost it again. I'm done touching that Harley. The boy can move it when he gets home, the boats inside, all is good except the Harley and I ain't touching it again EVER!
                              http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                              In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                              Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                              Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                              Cue sound of Head slap.

                              RIP Muggsy & TMan

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