Is my magazine spring in backwards from Kahr?

[gilfo]

I was reading the prep sticky and took apart my magazine. I looked in the owners manual and the photo show the spring the opposite way.
I attached a picture of how mine in installed asking for epert opinion is it in backwards??

[Bawanna]

Yup it's backwards. Flip it over front to back and you'll undoubtedly have a more harmonious outcome at the range.

Good catch.

[Tilos]

gilfo:
Welcome
what B said
...and remove the screen if your are going to test fire out that window. (get that screen fixed)

sorry for what I typed right there,
Tilos

[gilfo]

Thanks, I thought it looked funny

[michpatriot]

report back after shooting

Mine came from the factory the same as your photo...I havent had a single failure of any kind, I'm leaving the spring the way the factory installed it.Please update us all when you try it out at the range. Did you have any issues with the way it functioned prior to taking the mag apart to see the way yours was installed? The diagrams in the manual show it both ways if you look at all the pics for all models

[gb6491]

I was reading the prep sticky and took apart my magazine. I looked in the owners manual and the photo show the spring the opposite way.
I attached a picture of how mine in installed asking for epert opinion is it in backwards??

I'm of the opinion that you can't really tell from those photos if the spring is installed correctly. As shown, if I were to compare it with a spring out of my CW9, I would tend to think it's installed the right way, but that's not definitive. How the spring is oriented at the follower determines whether the spring is installed correctly or not. To be installed correctly, the spring should have the upper most portion of it oriented towards the front of the follower (see photo below):

Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

I been pondering on this all morning and found I was thinking like GB, his post just reinforced that I spoke too soon without seeing the other end.. It's the top that has to be angled properly with the follower. The bottom usually is on the same plane but apparently not so in this case.

[gilfo]

Maybe Jocko or Hoghunter please chime in

[Bawanna]

Jocko is on temporary hiatus for a couple weeks.

[Ressom]

You can see the hooks are on the bottom in GB's pic of the spring. That hook needs to be pointing toward the front of the magazine follower. That is the way it is in gilfo's pic as well. So I surmise that it is indeed installed correctly.

It needs to look like this:
IMG_1213a.jpg

NOT like this:
IMG_1217a.jpg

[Tilos]

All right, here's another mag spring question.
Here's a pic of 2 mag springs from 7 rd 9mm mags...one came with a pm9 and the other from a cw9.
One is 1/2 coil longer than the other.
Thoughts.

[Bawanna]

All right, here's another mag spring question.
Here's a pic of 2 mag springs from 7 rd 9mm mags...one came with a pm9 and the other from a cw9.
One is 1/2 coil longer than the other.
Thoughts.

The bottom one is what I usually encounter and would expect. This is what I based my "It's wrong" answer earlier.

Perhaps they determined the spring was too strong and shortened it 1/2 a coil?
The bottom one makes good sense to me. The top not so much but I suspect if the top is correct the bottom really doesn't make that much difference either.

[Hognutz]

I'm of the opinion that you can't really tell from those photos if the spring is installed correctly. As shown, if I were to compare it with a spring out of my CW9, I would tend to think it's installed the right way, but that's not definitive. How the spring is oriented at the follower determines whether the spring is installed correctly or not. To be installed correctly, the spring should have the upper most portion of it oriented towards the front of the follower (see photo below):

Regards,
Greg

Thanks, Greg. This picture, and the added instructions was what was needed to clarify this situation. There has been a ton of questions, lately about spring orientation, and this picture says it all. You sir, are a credit to this forum, and I do appreciate your input...Thanks to you and all the others, as well.. What a place...Mike

[gb6491]

Thanks for the kind words MiKe.
Regards,
Greg

[muggsy]

Seriously, someone needs to address the QC problems at Kahr. I've never seen another firearm with so many issues. It's a shame, because once you finally get them running properly they are great guns.