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I agree, but signs of the times, economy is in the pit!Support the NRA 100%
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I just got the history on my MK9 from the original owner, verified by Ian at Kahr--mine also had the exact same crack in the slide. They did replace the slide and transferred the Trijcon sights over at that time. I am new to Kahr's and I seriously am getting a bit of buyer's remorse learning of the incredible number of problems with them. Never read about these problems on the Sig, Glock, or S&W forums. Considering how many millions of firearms those companies make compared to the small amount Kahr does, the number of problems is a real issue. Taurus, Kel-tec and most other manufacturers stand behind their products. I was hoping my MK9 would become my EDC, but before that happens I will be putting several hundred rounds through it. Hope it lasts. Sheesh.
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In the business world about 2% to 5%(returned, damage or spoiled) are some bad products that were miss or felt in the cracks, and that is the first thing you will always hear first. Is kind when you are learning a new language where you learn the bad words first. It would be beneficial to have statistics from Kahrs in reference their products.Originally posted by Atilla View PostI just got the history on my MK9 from the original owner, verified by Ian at Kahr--mine also had the exact same crack in the slide. They did replace the slide and transferred the Trijcon sights over at that time. I am new to Kahr's and I seriously am getting a bit of buyer's remorse learning of the incredible number of problems with them. Never read about these problems on the Sig, Glock, or S&W forums. Considering how many millions of firearms those companies make compared to the small amount Kahr does, the number of problems is a real issue. Taurus, Kel-tec and most other manufacturers stand behind their products. I was hoping my MK9 would become my EDC, but before that happens I will be putting several hundred rounds through it. Hope it lasts. Sheesh.Support the NRA 100%
A Conceal Carry Handgun Must Meet Four Conditions:
1) It must be utterly reliable.
2) It should be compact enough to be carried concealed for long periods of time.
3) It should have a very simple operating drill.
4) It should fire a cartridge of sufficient power.
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I would bet that if Glock made their guns as small as Kahr's that they would start having problems with theirs too. The 9mm and .40cal is a pretty big bullet to be shooting in such a small package. Most other manufacturers with the same size gun are shooting the .380.
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I think what has happened to the cracked slides and frames was in the MK series. which tells me they got some bad heat process. Also it seems to be in guns 2 to 3 years of age and not in the later years. I have not see this on a k series kahr or T series kahrs and it seems also to be more prevelant in the MK40 kahrs. all the cracks have showe dup in about two exact areas, which tends to show some heat process failing..
Please do not sh-t yourself, Glocks give issues, so do sigs. none are immune, some worse, some not so worse. Not alibing for kahr here either. They IMO should stand behind a cracked frame or slide if the gun is even out of warranty, and most of the time IF YOU GET THE RIGHT PERSON, they will do so.
Kinda hard for Glock to get around the fact that they sold the Indiana state police 1200 G22 about 4 years ago and had so many issues, they had to take THEM ALL BACK and reissues G17 which they carry and love to this day. Would that make you G22 shy, not for me it wouldn't if tha tis what I want, for I feel Glock would stand behind the gun if it was not right.. If one feels lack of confidkence in a kahr, the best advice I could give it to get another brand and move. on. Certainly coming on this forum and espressing doubts willnot make it better and what ever I say or anyone else tells you is not going to change your mind either. Kahrs aren not for everyone, as we all know some hate glocks to.
I personally feel from owning many brands of semis's and selling guns for a living for over 40 years, that Kahr ranks right up there with some of the finest semi's out there. If you get a lemon, naturally the taste is not good.... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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me like your gripeing about something that has not given you one ounce of trouble or actual money out of your pocket . They replaced the defective slide and I have not read of them replacing defective sides with another defective slideOriginally posted by Atilla View PostI just got the history on my MK9 from the original owner, verified by Ian at Kahr--mine also had the exact same crack in the slide. They did replace the slide and transferred the Trijcon sights over at that time. I am new to Kahr's and I seriously am getting a bit of buyer's remorse learning of the incredible number of problems with them. Never read about these problems on the Sig, Glock, or S&W forums. Considering how many millions of firearms those companies make compared to the small amount Kahr does, the number of problems is a real issue. Taurus, Kel-tec and most other manufacturers stand behind their products. I was hoping my MK9 would become my EDC, but before that happens I will be putting several hundred rounds through it. Hope it lasts. Sheesh.
You ought to put a couple hundred rounds out of ANY GUN befroe calling it a EDC. Just makes good sense.
give the gun a chance to please you instead of looking at every thing with it now with an evil eye.
Go to the tech section and hit on the PROPER PREPPING OF YOURNEW KAHR. there are some tips in there that will help build your confidence and things to do to get that gun propery prepped... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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Crack in MK9 Slide
Hi Jocko,
I'm new to this forum, but not to owning and shooting handguns. I have been following this thread, and others pertaining to reliability of the Kahr PM9 and MK9. I thought I had decided to buy the MK9, but after reading discussions on repairs related to Kahr's warrantee policy, I'm wondering why resale values on used Kahr pistols are as high as I've seen. I think Kahr has a wonderful design, but buying a used one could turn out to be very expensive. Even a five-year warrantee on a new purchase is very hard to justify on a gun that is by no means cheap. I understand that the failure rate is very low, and I may still purchase an MK9. But you have to wonder why you have to speak to the RIGHT person to have a cracked frame or slide fixed.
Thank you,
hilltop1a
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I told them I bought it used. I don't remember how much it cost, but I remember is was under $200 for everything, including labor. I still have the gun and don't plan to ever get rid of it. Other guns have been sold off, but that one is a keeper.Originally posted by Vinikahr View PostDid they ask you or you told them?
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This is a few months old and not something widespread as ive not read anything besides this thread about cracked Kahr slides when i was researching my purchase of an MK9.
I only read a few posts of it just to get the jist, But Kahr should have replaced the guys slide imo. Possibly even a new gun as ive seen other makers do that.
I know if my relatively expensive little 9mm was to crack like that id be mad more than worried. As im rather sure a good smith could weld it up and look good as new and stronger.
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Thought I'd chime in here since I just got my MK9 back from Kahr, it had the cracked slide. (long time follower of this forum, 1st-time poster)
My MK9 is a GCXXXX serial number that I have had for 5-6 years (my CCW that has about 400 rounds through it). Never had any problems with it. A couple of weeks ago after a practice round I was cleaning the gun and noticed the infamous crack in the nose of the slide (between the barrell and bushing).
Let me get this out now...KAHR CUSTOMER SERVICE WAS GREAT!! I called Kahr on a Monday and told them of my newly found crack in the slide. Jay - Customer Service told me to not use the gun anymore and he would send me a prepaid Fedex shipper (with RMA) to ship the gun back to Kahr. The next day I had the shipper and sent the gun to Kahr.
In 9-days (total days over the weekend door-to-door) I had my gun back. They replaced the slide assembly, barrell and my night sights. (My MK had the old-style dovetail for sights, so they replaced it with the newer-style slide which required newer night sights as well, and they put new sights on the gun.)
I havn't had a chance to go to the range yet, but I have 100% confidence in their work. When they were replacing the night sights I had the Kahr armorer call to verify what kind of sights I wanted on the new-style slide (I was surprised they were going to do this). In talking with him I asked him about how they "check-out" the new slide to frame and he said "I just got done firing your gun and it is working flawlessly".
I couldn't be more pleased with Kahr Customer Service or Support.
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