My new 380 range report

[HDoc]

I being an old timer to both shooting and reloading over several decades and as such have seem alot of things. After pondering some of the young pups comments about the this gun problem and that problem have come to a couple conclusions : first comment, half the time its just plain old operator error or shall I call it from my Army days operator head space & timing issues. Does the old adage "This is my weapon and this is my gun, one is for shooting and one is for fun" Now that we got that out of the way...keep your damn weapon clean and properly lubricated...you take care of it and it will take care of you. Don't handle your weapon like a light in your loafers ****** you Jackwagon!

At ease!!!! Carry on!!!!

But in the Brown Shoe army you only had to remember to replace the flint
that hit the striker pan.....

[gm412]

DKD, I did not take any offense. Reread my post and it was not worded properly. I was agreeing with you. This gun is funny to handle and I know on more than one occasion I caused the problem. Not holding it tight enough and getting my hand in the way of the slide. I had fewer problems when I was doing rapid fire or trying to be very accurate because I was concentrating on the shots. Still had problems but not as many.

[gm412]

OK I just got a call from Fed Ex. My 380 will be back tomorrow from KAHR. Hope everything is working now. I will take it to the range this weekend.

[DKD]

Hey man I would be interested in that range report on Kahrs fix on your p380. Please let use know what Kahr did and how she performed. You don;t need adeath grip on it either, just a firm grip and lock your wrist, cause these small wepons ned something to push against with thos stiff recoil springs. Should your arm act like a shock absorber, they will surely short stroke the slide causing FTF and or FTE's.

[DKD]

HDOC,

Give me a break man, I missed the Brown Boot Army...did wear jump boots though. We weren't issued Flint Locks, I was using them new fangled percussion cap muzzle loaders I'll have you know. Our snipers used Sharps Buffalo Rifles.
I suppose you think I was old as dirt...? NOT.... maybe old as rope though.

[jocko]

I think when most here suggest possable shooter error it is not meant to be in harm but a suggestion It does happen and withg these small ass guns it certainly happens alot more than with the big ones. When I suggest it, I am merely saying to eliminate that possability and then move on to the next thing to try to look at and or eliminate. We never want to send back a gun that really works for kahr can'tr fix what ain't broken, so one just needs to heed all information given on this forum as a suggestion, nothing more. I read soemwhere today where a owner had a 380 and shot it Ok but when recleaning it etc, he decided to check to see if the magazine spring was in OK. and it was in backwards.., why it worked OK in the first place is strange but it was a "failure" WAITING TO HAPPEN. sometimes a person over looks the obvious and in the propper prepping thread it does mention to check your magazaines for we had one owner who had all 3 of his magazines with springs in backwards. IT DOES HAPPEN. Would be a shame to send a gun back for issues when merely checking to see if the springs ar ein right or wrong might be the issue.

I remember when I owned my 3 kel teks and was talking to one of their inside tech people and he told me that 50% of all their guns that are sent back that they tested out OK. Believe it our not, I am just the messenger. These little guns can cause head aches that the big guns would never dream of doing..That is what makes this forum so different than most. WE ARE HERE TO HELP, NOT CRITICISE.

[TominCA]

Sounds like its dirty - Fed Red box seems to produce more fouling in mine and these little guns are very susceptable to fouling in the striker channel and extractor areas. I even ultrasound my slide every few cleanings to bust up the striker crud and of course I blow it out with solvent every time I clean it.

Try more powerful ammo - Corbon 90, speer gold dot and magtech +p 85 grain work very well in mine. When I look at chrono tests of 380 on the internet it is obvious that the ammo that works best in my 380's is also the most powerful. If you clean it real good and it still doesn't shoot corbon, speer or magtech +p then I'd call Kahr.

To add to Jocko's post above - one time I was shooting my PM9 - for some reason I didn't get the magazine all the way in ( about 1/8" from latching) The gun actually went for 3 rounds before it jammed. That was my PM9's only jam ever - but it does show you how operator error can make a gun seem bad. I also found I was limp wristing my P380 by letting it flip to the right (I'm a lefty) under recoil. I learned this by watching the ejection rather than the target. It was easy to correct. But my P380 don NOT like low powered ammo!

[gm412]

I received my P380 back from KAHR. Not sure what they did. The invoice says polish feed and update parts as needed. Test Fired:Good. It is much easier to rack now. Slide is not nearly as stiff. Hope to make it to the range this weekend.

[flashman]

Hello All.

We have two P380's. I have a black/stainless and I bought my wife a Pink P380. The stainless was purchased 3 years ago. It took about 100 rounds to break in. She just got the Pink 380 a few weeks ago.The Pink 380 had few FTF and stove pipe. It has about 100 rounds thru it and seems to get better as more rounds are put thru it.

I purchased a new Taurus TCP 738 before I took over her black/stainless P380. The TCP 738 was snappy and not comfortable to shoot. The gun would jam a lot as I was breaking it in. I went to Taurus armed dot net and found a subject called TCP Realiability enhancements. It was about polishing the ramp and smoothing the MIM extractor claw and breaking the sharp corner on the slide stop. After I performed these minor modifications. The 738 was perfect. No jams etc. It even ate that Russian ammo (Toule) without a problem. I usually do not shoot that ammo, but I had a box of it. The gun was now dependable for carry. But I sold it last week and I now carry the Kahr P380(not the Pink one). I posted the link below about the modification. I wonder if this modification can be done to the Kahr P380 to speed up the break in process?

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/sm...ancements.html


Joe Flashman

[gm412]

OK Final range report. I went to the range for the first time after getting my p380 back from KAHR. 200 rounds of Federal 95 grain FMJ 380 Auto followed by 25 rounds of Federal Premium 90 grain HYDRA-SHOK JHP. Not a single problem. Shot perfect every time. It was great fun to shoot. Still need to practice. The p380 is very accurate and tight groups when I shoot it correctly but I am not consistent at all.
Also put another 100 rounds through the new PM9. Now it has 300 rounds through it with almost no problems. I am enjoying both of these guns.

[Cokeman]

Did I not tell you...or did I? Hmmm.

[gm412]

Did I not tell you...or did I? Hmmm.

Why yes you did

[Cokeman]

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