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  • Got my new P380, I think its broke out of box?

    I couldn't really think of a proper heading short enough, so I will explain. I just picked up my brand new Kahr P380 last night. I bought it brand new. I have been surfing around the forum a lot, and read I should rack the slide a lot, take it apart, clean and lube well, then go to range and break it in. So on the way home from gun shop I racked slide approx 200-250 times.

    When I got home, I disassembled it, and found that one of the rails is badly burred/shaved. Here is a pic.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonknepp/7053253777/




    What do you guys think?

  • #2
    Hard to know for sure, but it looks like flashing from the frame molding process. Can you remove some and see if the frame rail is actually impacted?
    Just may be excess plastic. Shooting it will be the best indicator.
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    • #3
      Uh, yeah. That's not right.

      Unfortunately, your gun's next trip is not to the range... it's back to Kahr.

      For future reference, your best bet is to disassemble, clean, and properly lubricate the gun prior to racking the slide a bunch of times. Not saying that your racking the slide is the cause of this problem, but rather the result. I'd bet there is something wrong in the slide (burr in the groove) that caused the problem, and it is likely that your disassembly and cleaning would have revealed the problem.

      I'll follow this thread to see what the resolution is. I've never seen a frame that looked like that.

      I'm sorry that you have this to deal with. It's a bummer after laying down a bunch of money on a gun, but I'm sure Kahr will take care of the problem.

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      • #4
        I forgot to add, the Serial Number starts with RB53xx

        Anybody know how "old" this gun is? The store I bought it from is the biggest in the area and they move a LOT of guns, so I would assume its very new. ??

        Thanks!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sliebl View Post
          Uh, yeah. That's not right.

          Unfortunately, your gun's next trip is not to the range... it's back to Kahr.
          Yeah, I would not have done it on the way home, other than the gun was so covered in oil I had to wipe it down so I could just handle it without getting oil on my hands... even the grip and trigger area were oily.

          Obviously now I wished I would have waited, but to late.

          On inspection, I can't find the bur that is causing this.

          I couldn't find who to e-mail at Kahr. So I emailed a Lisa that is in charge of Midwest division sales (I live in Indiana).

          Does anyone else have an idea of who I should email a pic to at Kahr?

          Thanks for your help guys! I really want this gun to be great! My Glock is just to big sometimes.

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          • #6
            Have a look here:
            http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=8708
            This is a P380 Serial number thread that may be helpful to you.

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            • #7
              It looks more like a defect in the molding process and not caused by racking the slide. Maybe the gun store that sold it to you will exchange it. I wouldn't shoot it.

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              • #8
                The plastic rails are just guide rails to aid in assembly. The slide actually rides on steel rails fore and aft of the plastic guide rails. Instead of racking the slide you should have been reading the manual. You can remove the shaved plastic and the gun will function just fine. You can send the gun back to Kahr and they can remove the shaved plastic and the gun will function just fine. Your choice.
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                • #9
                  With such a problematic gun one would think Kahr would be more careful when they assemble them. The Kahr employee that assembled that gun is partially blind or just didn't care with such an obvious flaw. If you read this forum you must have known you were at some risk of some kind of defect with the purchase. Too bad for you but Kahr will fix it.

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                  • #10
                    That is not normal and shameful of Kahr to ship a new item in that condition. As I suspected, Kahr's problems stem from poor quality control.....tight tolerances DEMAND tight quality control. Sorry, but you should send it back to Kahr. Make them feel a little pain on their end at least with shipping costs.

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                    • #11
                      A lot of new members jumping to conclusions, here. There is nothing to be concerned about. Like Muggsy said, just clean it off and everything will be fine. And like he said, those plastic rails are just guides for positioning the slide on reassembly. This happens on quite a few Kahrs. Won't keep happening. What the gun needed to shave off, it has shaved off. Clean it up and you're good to go.
                      Very interesting...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ikeo74 View Post
                        It looks more like a defect in the molding process and not caused by racking the slide. Maybe the gun store that sold it to you will exchange it. I wouldn't shoot it.
                        I bought it on clearance for $459! It was the last one. And I don't want a refund.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JFootin View Post
                          A lot of new members jumping to conclusions, here. There is nothing to be concerned about. Like Muggsy said, just clean it off and everything will be fine. And like he said, those plastic rails are just guides for positioning the slide on reassembly. This happens on quite a few Kahrs. Won't keep happening. What the gun needed to shave off, it has shaved off. Clean it up and you're good to go.
                          Just because one is a new member doesent always mean new to guns and certainly shouldn't mean new to common sense. Thanks to this forum I will always do a takedown on a gun and inspect it before I purchase it. If it looked like that one I would hand it back and say no thanks. To accept one like that perpetuates poor QC.

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                          • #14
                            It probably didn't look like that until after he racked the slide 250 times without lube and clearing the debris.
                            Focus on your front sight..... The rest should be blurry!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 19Delta View Post
                              I bought it on clearance for $459! It was the last one. And I don't want a refund.
                              Wow! You got a great price. If I were in your shoes, I'd shoot it and if a problem surfaces, send it back to Kahr. Reading posts on this forum, it seems like Kahr always takes care of things to the owners' satisfaction.

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