Hidey-Hole Spots

[Sliebl]

Also, I'm curious... if you don't have your CCW, how did you get your firearm to your vacation destination?

Forgive my ignorance if the answer is obvious as I don't know all of the different state laws regarding transport of firearms. In Pennsylvania, you need a LTCF (License to Carry Firearms) to conceal on your person, or to transport in a vehicle that is not going directly to or from the range or your place of business. We also can openly carry without a firearm without a LTCF, but not in or on a vehicle (requires the LTCF). That's the simplified/abridged version of our law anyhow.

Basically, if I didn't have my LTCF and I took my firearm on vacation with me, I'd have to walk. Not much of a vacation.

[Cokeman]

Why are you taking a gun on vacation just to leave it in your hotel room? Or is it a business trip?

[roskee]

Also, I'm curious... if you don't have your CCW, how did you get your firearm to your vacation destination?

Forgive my ignorance if the answer is obvious as I don't know all of the different state laws regarding transport of firearms. In Pennsylvania, you need a LTCF (License to Carry Firearms) to conceal on your person, or to transport in a vehicle that is not going directly to or from the range or your place of business.

There's no ignorance in your question at all; that's partly what these forums are designed for. I live in California. We probably have the tightest gun laws compared to others. In California you're allowed to transport unloaded firearms in a locked container in you vehicle (regardless of your destination). As far as personal protection, a loaded firearm can be with you at home, place of stay, or business. So, if I'm going to a campsite, my timeshare, etc. it's okay to have my loaded firearm with me.

I never mentioned anything about me needing to carry a gun on vacations. And, CCW is irrelevant to hidey holes. I just like hearing how experienced travelers keep there gun hidden at there place of stay, that's all. I know there are some creative hidey hole ideas that people use, and it is very interesting to me. I've heard of some cool hidey hole ideas in magazines, and I'm just curious to hear more. HOWEVER, I do think the lock box is pretty damn awesome, and I'd be quick to buy one.

[roskee]

A lot of hotel room safes are providing you a false sense of security. Do a search on YouTube and you'll see that most can be opened very easily without the combination. Scary how insecure they really are.

Yeah, I've always felt skeptical about hotel safes. And, someone in this thread brought up a good point about the housekeepers knowing every stash spot .

So, at this point the best idea I've heard was a lock box. Not much of a "hidey" hole, but it does give you that security which is good.

[downtownv]

A licensed gun-owner was arrested for possession of a firearm in a NJ Hotel after missing his flight connections at Newark-Liberty airport. He was forced to collect his luggage w/ legally transported firearm in it. The airlines put him up at a local hotel and he was promptly arrested for illegal possession of a firearm in NJ. Fire arm confiscated (later returned after going to court) Best advise keep it with you and take your chances. IMO

[MikeyKahr]

The NJ gun owners should have said no thanks to the free hotel and slept on the concourse. That, or NJ should just change the laws.

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[gunmut]

Keep the house cleaning staff on your side; I always leave two $$ on the pillow of my bed as a tip for the maid. I always get extra soap and stuff and I think it may keep them out of my stuff.
I have been a road warrior for 25 years and have never had anything stolen....I stay in hotels about 7-10 nights a month.

Thinking about it I may need to bump up to five $$.

[skiflydive]

Always flip through the Gideon Bible for cash. So many travelers head out to the (ballet) bars and stash cash in the Bible so they don't spend it. Then they forget about it the next day. I've found enough over the years to pay for a couple of CM9's

[HDoc]

The NJ gun owners should have said no thanks to the free hotel and slept on the concourse. That, or NJ should just change the laws.

The airport is still in New Jersey. I want to know who called the cops.

[wyntrout]

I can CCW up to but not including Illinois. So I stop in Paducah, KY, and unload and lock up my gun(s) and ammo... AND get gas before Illinois' higher prices... +30¢ a gallon!!

At the motel in Illinois I just carry from vehicle to room and back empty and locked up gun(s)... ammo and guns in their own lock boxes.

It's a PITA and I wish that my daughter and Ex lived in a more gun-friendly state. Fortunatately, it's usually just once a year... usually for Thanksgiving that I go up there.

Well, back to installing my danged front door!

Wynn

[Planedude]

The airport is still in New Jersey. I want to know who called the cops.

Someone from the airline... The firearm was declared and on the manifest. The weird part here, if I remember right, was'nt this guys flight diverted to NJ due to weather at his planned stop. He never wanted or planned to go to NJ, ever.
I bet it will be a cold day in Haiti before he returns too.
Too often lately the cops will attack someone "safe" like this in an effort to generate statical data for budget time.

"Oh look at how many illegal guns our stelar police force has removed from your streets mr. mayor..."

That has happened at my job at a US defence plant. They went Waaay overboard on a fellow employee for ONE box of .40 S&W ammo, in a plastic bag with it's receit, locked in the trunk of his car. No firearm of any type was present, but it took him a year to get his job back. The thinking of the plant security folks, they stopped a possible IED...

[HDoc]

Someone from the airline... The firearm was declared and on the manifest.

Wonder if it was Airline policy or a personal anti-gunz type. Sounds like a firing if was personal.

That has happened at my job at a US defence plant. They went Waaay overboard on a fellow employee for ONE box of .40 S&W ammo, in a plastic bag with it's receit, locked in the trunk of his car.

Having worked in a nuclear defense plant for many years, a I understand.
Nevertheless they were REAL specific on what NOT to bring onto company
property. And how did they get in the trunk of this guys car unless he had loose lips or was already on their radar??

[mrvco]

My first guess would be a dog, but can an explosive sniffing dog indicate on gun powder, but not gasoline?

[AJBert]

I had a few handlers on the K-9 team when I was in FL. We never tested the dogs on ammo, but just about every type of explosive that is currently available today. I will say none of the dogs while on patrol ever hit on one of the MA's who carried with extra mags, so I don't think a dog was used to bust ammo in the trunk.

[Planedude]

The employee in question was stopped at the front gate for a "random" check. Of note, it was the only car randomly check in that shift/day/week & month.
What are the odds?
Who was painting the target???
The silly and sad part here is that Texas law has since made this type of check for firearm/ammo issues a moot point. Your firearm and ammo locked in your car is now perfectly legal when parked at your place of work.

Have a good one.