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  • #16
    Well, I got off to the range and tried all of my magazines with Herter's 95-gr FMJ and S&B 92-gr FMJ. No problems... until I tried the Winchester 95-gr Ranger-T defense ammo. With the new mags, it wouldn't go up the ramp... from slide lock or hard slingshot... no go. Those work okay in my older P380, but I'll have to re-think the Ranger-T for my wife's SD ammo! The BB is definitely out. I may have to use Speer Gold Dots for that... more ammo to buy.

    I had one weird thing happen. In the new P380 I tried my carry mags with BB 90-gr +P Gold Dots. The 7-rounder spare mag had a stove pipe on round 7. I dropped the mag, cleared the case and then let the slide go forward. Then I couldn't pull the slide to the rear! The slide lock was fully inserted and I couldn't see any problems but it took me a while to get the slide to move to the rear... LOTS of force. Then the pistol was okay...???

    My shooting wasn't great... lots of jerking and sprinkling the letter-sized paper targets. I seem to do best if I point and focus on the trigger PULL... not jerking. I did get a lot of rounds downrange and the pistol should be broken in.

    I put maybe 50-60 rounds through it on the first trip to the range, but all of the extractor related problems made that no fun and I shot MY P380 for the rest of the time.

    I shot two boxes of Herters, 27 rounds of S&B, around 18 or so rounds of Ranger-T, and 15 BB 90-gr +P Gold Dots. I shot most of the Ranger T in MY pistol. A few random BB were certainly noticed!

    When I can get my wife to the range we'll see how she shoots the pistol. She's going to SW Colorado to visit her mom for Mother's Day and picking up her sister in Phoenix on the way... as a surprise. After she gets back I want to try to get her scheduled for the CCW Permit. We can make an appointment and have the picture, prints, and application all-in-one stop done.

    Wynn
    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

    Thomas Jefferson said

    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
    and

    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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    • #17
      Good to hear. I carry Speer Gold Dots in my P380 and they have functioned 100 percent in the gun, and no more recoil than S&B FMJ.

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      • #18
        I just ordered 250 rounds from SGA @ $31.95 a box of 50, plus $13 something for shipping and insurance. I got tired of looking and there may have been a better deal somewhere, but that wasn't bad. I saw prices up to $45 a box plus shipping!

        It bothers me a bit that the "new and improved" 6 and 7-round mags wouldn't feed the Ranger-T's UP the ramp. I WAS thinking of modifying the other 10 magazines like the newer ones, but they fed the Ranger-T's fine... in MY P380.

        I tried the T's in the new mags in the older P380 and one fed okay and the other balked but fed the next rack of the slide. My older P380's barrel ramp was "modified" by me long ago when I sought to decrease the immediate uphill slope. I was using a diamond abrasive bit in my Dremel-Like Tool... DLT... and it bit into the ramp like a hot knife into butter! I thought that I had really screwed the pooch with that barrel. I really worked at the ramp with a round file and sandpaper around the round file to create a smooth ramp again. I seem to have succeeded and it works fine, but I thought was going to have to buy another barrel! Those DLT thingies can wreak havoc with metal and worse with plastic... as I have found out a few times! 25,000 to 30,000 RPM and plastic vaporizes... POOF!

        Wynn
        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
        Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
        Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

        Thomas Jefferson said

        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
        and

        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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        • #19
          My first p380 had the same issue with having to push it back into battery... Pita for sure.
          Focus on your front sight..... The rest should be blurry!

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          • #20
            Well, the magazine catch was bad... dropping mags and FTF's... too soft bearing ledge rolled over. Kahr sent a new one and it worked okay. Finally got around to cleaning the pistol after a week and the danged rear sight all but fell out!

            I easily pushed the rear sight out and saw a little oil or something there. I cleaned the dove tail with alcohol and used Red Permatex to try to seal that in place! Dang! What's next??

            Wynn
            USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
            Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
            Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

            Thomas Jefferson said

            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
            and

            "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JFootin View Post
              Hard to believe they test fired that gun before it left the factory.
              I am having the same types of problems plus more after my second time to Kahr. When I got it I could not get through one magazine without at least one and usually 2 malfunctions. I also wondered if they really tested it before sending it to me. And since it was the second time back I thought they would test it even more.

              I love these guns but they need some QA. Hell we send out huge software packages with less bugs than these 380s and when we fix one it is fixed.

              I am about to call Kahr and send it back for a third try.

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              • #22
                i hate to hear these stories....sorry guys that you have to go through this...Kahr has my 380, some may know, 49 perfect rounds and then then the slide locks closed???...and who knows...sounds like they fix one thing and brake another....i can only hope....otherwise, you'll see it for sale....hard to find a good 380...maybe the TCP is up next...sig? I don't know, I'll CC a bazooka

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                • #23
                  Maybe you have a bad magazine catch, too. The bearing ledge on mine just failed... the replacement seems good. I'll keep an eye on that.

                  Sometimes they get bad parts... defects and such.

                  Let me see if I can post the pix of that. First three are the bad one. The last is of the bad one after I tried to remove the "rolled" edge with the wrong tool... a small stone... couldn't find my danged small files... and the new one on the right.

                  Wynn
                  Attached Files
                  USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                  Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                  Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                  Thomas Jefferson said

                  “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                  and

                  "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                  • #24
                    Post on It happened to me... the extractor flying off my PM9. Just got parts and posted pix and question on post#37:

                    http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?p=188051#post188051

                    Wynn
                    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                    Thomas Jefferson said

                    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                    and

                    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                    • #25
                      Well, finally ready and leaving for the gun show at the Fairgrounds... my main exercise for the weekend.

                      Wynn
                      USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                      Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                      Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                      Thomas Jefferson said

                      “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                      and

                      "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                      • #26
                        Sweet Baby Rays. Yum

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