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    Got my P380 10 days ago. 2 trips to the range with a serious cleaning and oil in between and 100 rounds each session. Per the manual, break in is complete.
    Here is the results: First hundred rounds of Independence Ammo and had about 4-5 Jams. Ammo not that bad, and not that dirty. I think it is a FEDERAL off shoot. I swabbed 2 times during first round of 100. Used a Q tip and solvent for a quick swabbing.
    2nd trip today. Another 100 rounds. No cleaning during session...6 jams.
    Used Aguila ammo and it was ok, but FILTHY!

    Now I need to figure out if the new P380 is problematic with jamming or the 2 sessions were problematic due to the fact the ammo wasn't top shelf! Other then the jams, I love the Kahr! Perfect for carry. Shoots like a dream, slightly low, but nothing too serious. I do want the jams to stop as it would be the last think I want to think about God forbid I need it in a tight spot!

    Any suggestions????

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    Originally posted by fatjack34 View Post
    Got my P380 10 days ago. 2 trips to the range with a serious cleaning and oil in between and 100 rounds each session. Per the manual, break in is complete.
    Here is the results: First hundred rounds of Independence Ammo and had about 4-5 Jams. Ammo not that bad, and not that dirty. I think it is a FEDERAL off shoot. I swabbed 2 times during first round of 100. Used a Q tip and solvent for a quick swabbing.
    2nd trip today. Another 100 rounds. No cleaning during session...6 jams.
    Used Aguila ammo and it was ok, but FILTHY!

    Now I need to figure out if the new P380 is problematic with jamming or the 2 sessions were problematic due to the fact the ammo wasn't top shelf! Other then the jams, I love the Kahr! Perfect for carry. Shoots like a dream, slightly low, but nothing too serious. I do want the jams to stop as it would be the last think I want to think about God forbid I need it in a tight spot!

    Any suggestions????
    Shoot it in 50 rounds intervals clean and repeat. It should be functional by now.
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    • #3
      If it was still jamming towards the end of your 200 round break-in then I'd give Kahr a call.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jwr View Post
        If it was still jamming towards the end of your 200 round break-in then I'd give Kahr a call.
        I'd be a little more patient. Try to make sure you are firing better quality ammo. The cheap stuff may be good for a Bersa .380 but the Kahr's have such tight tolerances that I think it needs more time for break in. I'd say give it another 100rnds to be sure.

        If you could, please describe the "jams". Is it failing to feed the next round or is it failing to eject the spent casing etc...?
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        • #5
          The jams are NOT stove pipe type jams. The slide stays open, and the round won't eject some time. Other times it won't feed and a simple tug back on the slide feeds it.

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          • #6
            As far as better quality ammo usage....sheeeet! I would love to, but the reason I used the Aguila and Independence, is that it was all I could find available anywhere...including on line!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fatjack34 View Post
              As far as better quality ammo usage....sheeeet! I would love to, but the reason I used the Aguila and Independence, is that it was all I could find available anywhere...including on line!
              Understood. I experienced some of the same FTF issues with the round not completely feeding into the chamber. I'm going to put another 100rnds through it and see if the problem goes away.
              "Get out of my dreams and into my Kahr"

              I-Y-G

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              • #8
                I will too...I have 100 rounds of the Filthy Aguila ammo. I will clean and oil the piece and see what happens...

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                • #9
                  I can only relate to my P380. I had alot of issues with Indenpendace ammo. nOT A BIT OF ISSUES WITH ANY OTHER BRAND. there fore I don't shoot that stuff anymore.
                  . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                  • #10
                    Pay attention to the feed ramp as it can really load up with "soot" and cause failures to feed. You might need Q-tips for the P380. I could barely get my pinky with a paper towel in to clean the ramps without breaking the gun down each time with my PM9 and K9. That was using "dirty" range fodder. I polished the ramps with a "dremel" when I got home.
                    Wynn
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                    • #11
                      I can

                      Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
                      Pay attention to the feed ramp as it can really load up with "soot" and cause failures to feed. You might need Q-tips for the P380. I could barely get my pinky with a paper towel in to clean the ramps without breaking the gun down each time with my PM9 and K9. That was using "dirty" range fodder. I polished the ramps with a "dremel" when I got home.
                      Wynn
                      rum my 9mm snake fromt he mag well throughthe P380 barrel and really clean up that ramp after shooting it ... Doing it fromt he top, misses the ramp area..
                      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                      • #12
                        That was just for expedience at range. The PM9 is easily taken apart, but just for the sooty ramp I was being lazy at the range.
                        I'm looking forward to shooting up my emergency buy of 200 rounds of Aguila back when I was worried about not finding any to break in my P380 -- NOT! I stopped worrying about that after I got my PM9.
                        Wynn
                        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                        Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                        Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                        Thomas Jefferson said

                        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                        and

                        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                        • #13
                          Wyntrout

                          All I can say about the AGUILA ammo is that my experience was it is filthy chit! And it didn't feed all that well in my p380...but that could be due to the fact I was not swabiing the ramp and action during the firing of 100 rounds...maybe it works fine when everything is cleaned after a few rounds, but the stuff is sooty.

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                          • #14
                            I picked up a new P380 last week and gave it a good cleaning and lube prior to going to the range (used a combo of Wilson syn grease and a light oil on all contact points).

                            Shooting all WWB, I fired 180 rounds without the slightest hiccup… I was actually quite surprised, most Kahr’s I’ve had in the past have needed at least 100 rounds of break-in before they were totally reliable – it gave me a good feeling about the P380 when I didn’t experience any reliability issue in the least.

                            I would use good quality ammo if you can scrounge some up and try it out then… the WWB was their RN flat point and about 20 rounds of Hornady Critical Defense.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jarhead View Post
                              I picked up a new P380 last week and gave it a good cleaning and lube prior to going to the range (used a combo of Wilson syn grease and a light oil on all contact points).
                              Welcome to the Board and I thank you for your service!

                              Shooting all WWB, I fired 180 rounds without the slightest hiccup… I was actually quite surprised, most Kahr’s I’ve had in the past have needed at least 100 rounds of break-in before they were totally reliable – it gave me a good feeling about the P380 when I didn’t experience any reliability issue in the least.
                              200 rounds as per Kahr manual.

                              I would use good quality ammo if you can scrounge some up and try it out then… the WWB was their RN flat point and about 20 rounds of Hornady Critical Defense.
                              Good luck finding quality ammo, whatever you can get is a plus.
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                              A Conceal Carry Handgun Must Meet Four Conditions:
                              1) It must be utterly reliable.
                              2) It should be compact enough to be carried concealed for long periods of time.
                              3) It should have a very simple operating drill.
                              4) It should fire a cartridge of sufficient power.

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