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Love my PM9...are the P380s as reliable?

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  • #16
    I hope you have before and after pictures of the extractor.
    Glock 23
    CZ 452 ZKM Special
    Walther P22
    LMT STD 16
    Mossberg 500A
    Kahr P380
    Henry H001Y
    Winchester 12
    Smith & Wesson M&P Shield
    Mossberg 500B
    Marlin 336Y
    Kahr MK9
    Kel-Tec KSG
    Smith &Wesson M686+

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    • #17
      the smaller the guns get the more issues arise for gunsmith to overcome and designers as well i guess... that's why i just can't believe me eyes when i look at the cm9... it's such a gem... i am no longer impressed by my cw9 anymore...

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      • #18
        I believe that Kahr has solved most of the problems. The P380 is ammo sensitive however so you need to determine what will work and what will not. My daughter uses WWB for practice and occasionally she has problems with it. I think you can buy a new P380 without worrying about reliability.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Nimrod View Post
          I believe that Kahr has solved most of the problems. The P380 is ammo sensitive however so you need to determine what will work and what will not. My daughter uses WWB for practice and occasionally she has problems with it. I think you can buy a new P380 without worrying about reliability.
          I agree...I suspect most guns are OTB pretty relliable, and during my break-in firing I could tell the gun was loosening up and starting to fire more than once per jam.
          What I did was dissasemble the gun and insert a cartridge under the extractor which pretty well isolated the problem as I could tell the extractor's resistance to allowing the cartridge to slide into position was quite high. Also, the P380 extractor extends down and acts to capture the cartridge rim early in the feed cycle, and this portion is beveled forward a bit.
          I then removed the extractor and ran through chambering cycles and the gun chambered 100% reliably...clearly the problem was the tight tolerances of the extractor.
          I honed the extractor on it's backside and along it's edge where it indexes into the cartridge groove...VERY little material was removed...a few thousandths at most, but it was enough, combined with that 3/4 coil clipping to allow the gun to feed and eject with near 100% (so far 100%) reliability.

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