Cold weather issue

[BucketBack]

I shot my CW9 after it's been in the cold van for 2 days. It's was 20 out today with a 12 degree wind chill. I only fired 2 mags because of the wind. No problems besides my cold face and hands.

[Tank]

I live in Wisconsin and my winter shooting is outside below 32 deg. Was just out last week. My T40 and P380 both run well in the cold, as do all my guns. My guess would be oil (or grease) that is not up to the cold. I won't buy that it is the firearm.

I know mine are good to around 10 deg. (I would bet lower) and below that crime almost comes to a standstill in my parts as it's too cold for the criminals. Could be differnt in Alaska or places like that though.

[M4Mike]

Thank you all for responding to my issue. Kahr has yet to send me a repair order number. Sending them another e-mail.

[Tank]

Be sure to let us know what they find or say about this. I would think most people that live in cooler climates would like to know.

[leftysixty]

Forget the e-mail! Maybe it don't get looked at by anyone that cares!

I have had good results with Kahr and other companies by calling customer service! If you call you will know that the problem is at least being considered. You also can be refered to someone that has useful knowledge.

Give it a try

[BucketBack]

Be sure to let us know what they find or say about this. I would think most people that live in cooler climates would like to know.

I'll be shooting my CW9 in a couple hours, it was stashed for the weekend in a car safe, in a van that wasn't moved, since we drove a different van down to DeToilet.
It's 21 degrees here in Newaygo this morning.

I assume it will run just like my Glock does under the same conditions.

[M4Mike]

Kahr finally sent me a repair order number. Will keep you updated.

[19Delta]

Kahr finally sent me a repair order number. Will keep you updated.

Any updates?

Myself and a friend went to the outdoor range yesterday. It was a balmy 21 degrees F here in northern IN. We shot AR's for a while, then after about 20 min switched to the handgun range. I was shooting (more breaking in) my Kahr CM9, and just practicing with my carry Kahr p380. He was shooting his CW40. Mine fired flawless (both), and had the same trigger pull as usual.

His would not shoot. At all. Pulled mag and round out, pulled trigger REALLY hard and it would click (with what seemed like a 1/4 second delay). He decided lets not be dumb and shoot a broken gun.

We get home, unload, start cleaning AR's, pull his kahr to figure it out, rack slide, trigger pull is back like normal. We were confused. Took it apart sprayed a ton of Brake parts cleaner (non chlorinated) in the little glory hole to make sure channel was good and clean. Cleaned rest of gun, relubed with his rem oil like always. Worked great. Threw it in the freezer just for giggles. Ate Dinner, pulled his gun. Had to pull trigger ALL the way back, when it was as far back as it could go, if you squeezed with a bit more force (guessing 15+lbs) it would "fire/click" (no bullets, we inside house). HMMMM. Let it warm up for 10 min or so. Right back to normal. Now we feel like we are onto it. Put both his .40 and my cm9 back in freezer. 30min later, my cm9 is great, like always, it clicks off just before to rear of pull. His? yep, no click unless you pull ALL the way to rear, then squeeze pretty hard. After it warmed up, works perfect again.

He bought his used at a local gunshop. Will kahr fix his? Anyone else find a fix to this? What is the fix? New lower?

Cold and curious.

[richholland]

Any updates?

Myself and a friend went to the outdoor range yesterday. It was a balmy 21 degrees F here in northern IN. We shot AR's for a while, then after about 20 min switched to the handgun range. I was shooting (more breaking in) my Kahr CM9, and just practicing with my carry Kahr p380. He was shooting his CW40. Mine fired flawless (both), and had the same trigger pull as usual.

His would not shoot. At all. Pulled mag and round out, pulled trigger REALLY hard and it would click (with what seemed like a 1/4 second delay). He decided lets not be dumb and shoot a broken gun.

We get home, unload, start cleaning AR's, pull his kahr to figure it out, rack slide, trigger pull is back like normal. We were confused. Took it apart sprayed a ton of Brake parts cleaner (non chlorinated) in the little glory hole to make sure channel was good and clean. Cleaned rest of gun, relubed with his rem oil like always. Worked great. Threw it in the freezer just for giggles. Ate Dinner, pulled his gun. Had to pull trigger ALL the way back, when it was as far back as it could go, if you squeezed with a bit more force (guessing 15+lbs) it would "fire/click" (no bullets, we inside house). HMMMM. Let it warm up for 10 min or so. Right back to normal. Now we feel like we are onto it. Put both his .40 and my cm9 back in freezer. 30min later, my cm9 is great, like always, it clicks off just before to rear of pull. His? yep, no click unless you pull ALL the way to rear, then squeeze pretty hard. After it warmed up, works perfect again.

He bought his used at a local gunshop. Will kahr fix his? Anyone else find a fix to this? What is the fix? New lower?

Cold and curious.

I have exactly the same issue with my P9. I purchased it new in box.

I tried the freezer trick as a test also, and it went just as you described.

[jocko]

sure sounds to me like a lube issue. My advice, keep it out of the freezer.that scenario ain't gonna happen.

take that remingotn oil and put it in the freezer and then later pullit ouot and see how thick it comes out. Might just surprise u... but befor ethat put some of that oil in a teasspoon andjust sit it aside and see which one flows after the freezer thing...

I use dto shwo that to people with Usig Mobil One and then regular oil, put um both in a freezer in a jar and then tomorrow see which one still pours and which one is damn near solid...

[richholland]

sure sounds to me like a lube issue. My advice, keep it out of the freezer.that scenario ain't gonna happen.

take that remingotn oil and put it in the freezer and then later pullit ouot and see how thick it comes out. Might just surprise u... but befor ethat put some of that oil in a teasspoon andjust sit it aside and see which one flows after the freezer thing...

I use dto shwo that to people with Usig Mobil One and then regular oil, put um both in a freezer in a jar and then tomorrow see which one still pours and which one is damn near solid...

It isn't a lube issue with mine.

I took it apart and cleaned and dried it - including the striker channel.

Results are consistent - if the gun gets below about 37 degrees, striker does not fall on trigger pull.

[jocko]

I would email kahr and tell them exactly what you have found and put it to the attention of Jay... doesn't sound right to me either...

[mr surveyor]

tell me that you guys are NOT putting oil in the striker channel

[19Delta]

tell me that you guys are NOT putting oil in the striker channel

Clean as a whistle hear!

[richholland]

tell me that you guys are NOT putting oil in the striker channel

Of course not. Clean and dry.