I picked up my kahr p380 it shoots fmj bullets perfectly fine. it will not chamber a hollow point from the magazine at all. what to do?
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After the break-in period I went to Remington Golden Saber. No feeding problems what-so-ever. During the break-in I ran PMC FMJ and those ran well too.Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.
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Originally posted by Short Bus View PostIMO I would use FMJ's for penetration in a 380 anyway. If you must have hollow points, have you tried different types?
Agree. All I shoot in my P380 is 95 grain FMJ. Flawless feeding, total reliability, and in .380 you want penetration in SD mode like you'll get from FMJ.
I'll admit---I'm trigger happy
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You are better off using FMJ during the winter months to penetrate heavy clothing, but hollow points in summer will create a bigger wound channel and won't over penetrate.Originally posted by Flincher View PostAgree. All I shoot in my P380 is 95 grain FMJ. Flawless feeding, total reliability, and in .380 you want penetration in SD mode like you'll get from FMJ.
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I have a Taurus 738 TCP 380, and Hornady Critical Defense rounds are the only rounds that I have had 100% feeding success with. I have crippled, partially paralyzed hands and wrists, so the stout recoil tends to overcome my grip. It's limp wristing that I cannot seem to overcome. So even FMJs want to jam against the almost vertical feed ramp. I just tap the back of the slide to finish chambering the round when that happens. I have tried 2 or 3 different brands of FMJs, and I am going to continue to experiment with other brands and put more rounds thru it. I'm sure it will improve and I will improve at holding it firmly over time. But the 100% success with the Hornady Critical Defense gives me confidence enough to carry the pistol.Originally posted by BucketBack View PostOr use Hornady Critical Defense FTX bullet, they feed well, half open up when shot thru a heavy jacket, the other half don't and act like a FMJ
Best of both worlds.Very interesting...
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I had no issues with hps feeding but did with WWB flat nose. A while back there were some very good pics on the site that showed an engineering change had been done to the P380 mags and on new mags the feed lips were shorter and chamfered back more making the contact area shorter than the 3 mags I had.
I reworked my mags to be like the new ones in the pics and all ammo feeds better.
One thing that might tell if this is your issue is see if the hps feed when they are loaded at the bottom of the mag, like just load the first 2 rounds hps and the rest round nose. See if the hps feed under the lower spring pressure. The longer lip contact seamed to be less of an issue for me when the mag spring pressuer was lower.
I hope you can follow what I'm trying to say here, if not ask and I'll try again. My guess is if your mags are over a year old they may be the old e/c.
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Less than a full, PROPER rack will give you problems in that tight little gun. I have two.
As Kahr suggests, lock the slide back, then insert full magazine, hold the pistol firmly and release the slide lock. You CAN "limp wrist" a chamber attempt like this and fail to chamber a round!
A slingshot rack is the most powerful one short of actual firing, BUT it must be done correctly using a firm grip with the gun hand and an over-the-slide grip with the weak hand, racking and pushing with the gun hand simultaneously and releasing cleanly as the slide reaches the rear and is PULLED from your hand.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow
If the magazine is dropping... make sure it's securely retained in the magazine well and try to keep your hand/fingers off the slide lock lever and the magazine release. I put my weak or supporting hand thumb over the other one to keep it out of the way of the buttons!
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insert thqat magazine look on ther right side and see if that magazine release button is flush with the grip. IT MUST BE. If it sticks out a tad , then it is not engaging the magazine well enough. Now if it is flat, withthe grip , now try to just pull the magazine out of the gun. If u cannot, then the magazine falling loose has to be the shooter grip releasing that magaxine button..Originally posted by dieselpower65 View PostI have not tried putting a hollow point in before a fmj. all i have shot out of it so far is fmj. i have only tried racking a hollow point at home. I also shot it again the other day and it was jamming a little bit. And for some reason the mag would come out after the first shot.. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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Try chambering a hp but only load 2 or 3 in the mag. See if it will work with reduced mag spring pressure on the round. That will tell us the same thing, if it's the mag feed lips.Originally posted by dieselpower65 View PostI have not tried putting a hollow point in before a fmj. all i have shot out of it so far is fmj. i have only tried racking a hollow point at home. I also shot it again the other day and it was jamming a little bit. And for some reason the mag would come out after the first shot.
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Way too many suggestions past the BASICS with too little info on his procedure!
We have no idea what he's doing and can't just throw every idea in the world at one time his way! Mixing ammo types in the magazine isn't helpful... need to see what he's doing... starting with the basics in chambering a round!
Wynn
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Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf
Thomas Jefferson said
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
and
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
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