CW45 owners

[marcinstl]

well, wanted to end this thread (get it off the books, so to speak), so I emailed Kahr and got this reply (next day)------

"Good morning.

The situation described does not present any cause for concern and is the firearm passing through the break in period. As long as the firearm is functioning well there should be no cause for concern.

Have a good day from Kahr.

Eoin Pryal.
Kahr Arms."

so I'm calling that official and will proceed to the range for another box of 50. Yippeee!

[adooley]

well, wanted to end this thread (get it off the books, so to speak), so I emailed Kahr and got this reply (next day)------

"Good morning.

The situation described does not present any cause for concern and is the firearm passing through the break in period. As long as the firearm is functioning well there should be no cause for concern.

Have a good day from Kahr.

Eoin Pryal.
Kahr Arms."

so I'm calling that official and will proceed to the range for another box of 50. Yippeee!

I did notice that my slide was quite sticky when I first bought it but after a few hundred times manually racking the slide, and 100 rds of range time, it loosed up. I can still get it to catch slightly but I have to work at it. Another couple of hundred rounds ought to do it.

Since that is Eoin's response, looks like I'm not sending mine in after all. Thanks for sharing.

[gb6491]

Well, I got a call yesterday from my local shop that my CW45 had returned.

I'm happy to report that it's fixed (Kudos to Kahr and the Colonel).

It sports a new serial number as the frame was replaced.
The front frame rails now engage the slide grooves when the slide is in battery.

I believe they used all the remaining parts of my old pistol to complete the build. I'm glad for that as the old gun was exceptionally accurate with a nice smooth trigger. The "new" gun exhibits those traits as well.

I put thirty rounds of 230gr. Winchester "white box" ball through it before I thought to check if it had been lubed by Kahr....it was bone-dry, but hadn't missed a beat.

Regards,
Greg

[marcinstl]

hehehehehe, yours must have been extra broken in or did you leave it out in the desert sun all day? I'm glad Kahr fixed that and made you happy. happy Kahr shooters, that's us.

[gb6491]

hehehehehe, yours must have been extra broken in or did you leave it out in the desert sun all day? I'm glad Kahr fixed that and made you happy. happy Kahr shooters, that's us.

LOL, I had a similar thought ("broke in") when I read your post about Customer Service's reply that "The situation described does not present any cause for concern and is the firearm passing through the break in period."
CS will probably need to rethink that after they hear from AFDoc:
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=23886
Thanks for the chuckle.
Regards,
Greg

[marcinstl]

Greg,
whereas I think I was being cautious and reporting what I observed my CW45 doing- getting loose and breaking in, I can see where your gun was broken and needed parts replacing. sounds like AFDoc needs a new gun. my "buddy" the salesman at the gun store kids me about trading in the Kahr($380) for a Wilson Combat($3200). anyway, I'm glad there's Kahrtalk.

[adooley]

After reading that they replaced gb6491's frame I decided to call up Kahr and get their perspective. They provided a FedEx shipping label and it is going in the mail tonight. Just got the dang thing and now it'll be gone for a month. Sigh.

[marcinstl]

so your pride and joy is going on vacation and leaving you all alone, sigh? hehehehe. hope you have a sharp stick while your waiting. after reading around on various gun boards, I get the feeling Kahr treats the owners pretty good. not mentioning any names but I've seen where some gun co.'s (even high dollar Euro guns) don't. good luck and I hope your CW45 comes back perfect. then back to the range and blast away.

[marcinstl]

I came across this video and thought I'd link it here for amusement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwQoMEedmU
this is a review of a Ruger P345. the guy doesn't have a clue what he's holding. playing with the metal slide he says the frame is metal. wrong. this was one of the first metal slide/plastic frame guns. big, duty size .45.
notice how the slide rattles on the frame. notice how it shoots. rental gun with thousands of rounds thru it, still making money for the range.

[marcinstl]

ok, Greg(and his new frame) got me to thinking. so I measured my CW45. remove the slide, take the ruler and measure from the end of the front of the metal guide strip("front frame rail") to the front of the frame. I get just a hair under 3/16", call it 5/32". put a piece of tape on the slide just as it comes out of the frame as a reference, removed the frame, as best I can tell from holding the frame and slide, lined up, side by side, the slide just barely is engaged and in constant contact with those metal strips and will ride back on them as the slide moves to the rear.
what's all that prove? take the gun to the range, put a .45 hole in the target where the red dot was, repeat, repeat, smile.....

[adooley]

I did something similar, but had no contact until the slide moves back about 1/16". There was a lot of up and down play in the front of the slide. Either way it is in Kahr's hands now. Its a matter of a verrry long wait to see what happens.

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[tony k]

Re: CW45 owners

I finally heard back from kahr! Their phone message said my front frame rails were .050" too short. Like Greg, they are replacing the frame. They just need to know which ffl I want it sent to. I guess I'm gonna have a new serial number frame with all the old parts. I look forward to having it back, but in the mean time I'll continue to shoot the hell out of my awesome cm9.
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[leftysixty]

Glad to hear that they're gon'a fix you up!

[marcinstl]

"said my front frame rails were .050" too short." WTF!? unbelievable! the machine that cuts these "rails" out of stock wasn't set up right, the rails went to the polymer company and nobody noticed, the completed frame came back to Kahr and nobody noticed? this ain't kimchi, it's a damn gun!
if you pull the slide off the gun, line up the slide next to the frame so that the rear of the 2 pieces are where they should be and look, those rails should engage the groves in the slide by at least a 1/16th". (eyeball, not science).
the people with problems have exchanged serial numbers to see if it was the same production run?
Kahr has to be aware that there is a problem.

[gb6491]

"said my front frame rails were .050" too short." WTF!? unbelievable! the machine that cuts these "rails" out of stock wasn't set up right, the rails went to the polymer company and nobody noticed, the completed frame came back to Kahr and nobody noticed? this ain't kimchi, it's a damn gun!
if you pull the slide off the gun, line up the slide next to the frame so that the rear of the 2 pieces are where they should be and look, those rails should engage the groves in the slide by at least a 1/16th". (eyeball, not science).
the people with problems have exchanged serial numbers to see if it was the same production run?
Kahr has to be aware that there is a problem.

My original serial number gun was over 4 years old (SN: SD39XX).
I checked a new CW45 at a local shop and it has the issue. I didn't think to check the serial number at the time. FWIW, the serial on my new frame starts with "SG".
I posted a video earlier to describe the issue, but I've found it's much easier to check for the issue by pinching the slide and dust cover together. Then while holding them together, see if you can move the slide rearward. I couldn't do so on my older serial number CW45 or the one I checked in the store. Post repair: I can easily move the slide with no hint of it stopping or even catching on anything.

Checks good

Regards,
Greg