P380 Light Primer Strikes

[Irelander]

I went out last night and shot two mags worth of ammo and every one went off. This was after meticulously cleaning the slide internals. However, I would not characterize it as very dirty in my opinion. I am happy that it is running better now and I will install the new springs as soon as they come in.

[muggsy]

I went out last night and shot two mags worth of ammo and every one went off. This was after meticulously cleaning the slide internals. However, I would not characterize it as very dirty in my opinion. I am happy that it is running better now and I will install the new springs as soon as they come in.

There is a clean out hole in the slide. If after every trip to the range you spray a little non-chlorinated brake cleaner into the hole it will remove any debris in the striker channel. It dries without leaving any residue. It would seem that your gun was fixed without replacing any parts and with just a little routine maintenance.

In my first post I said that the problem could be due to something that you did or didn't do. Of course, as Smokersteve pointed out, I'm just a know-it-all. It is my sincere hope that you are now more comfortable carrying your Kahr. I'm not the kind of guy to say I told you so, but if I were do you know what I'd say? I told you so.

[Irelander]

Muggsy,

I agree that it was a fairly easy fix. I did state that when I detail stripped the slide after the initial issue arose the striker, striker channel, and striker spring were not at all what I would call dirty. Nothing that I would not expect from an EDC gun. So how much debris in the striker channel will cause a failure to fire like I experienced? Bothers me that little of debris totally stopped this gun. Doesn't give me that warm fuzzy feeling. You can be sure that I will hose out the striker channel regularly now. Hopefully I don't start WWIII by saying this...but I have many other guns that do not show any signs of hiccups until they are majorly dirty, however, none of them are this small and easy to conceal. Now that I now what it takes to keep this P380 running I will be more vigilant.

[smokersteve]

Glad you figured it out. Hopefully that was it.
I keep my Kahrs super clean. You have to if you want a smooth running gun. They just aren't made quite as well as S&W and Glock.

[jocko]

for christ sakes

I don't have a problem with Sig Sauer. They make a lot of fine guns. I cut my teeth on a 1911 and always carry them cocked and locked. To my knowledge they don't make a striker fired gun, but I wouldn't be adverse to carrying a Sig. If fact a Sig would be my second choice. Sorry, no fireworks here.

muggsy, ur supposed to thoot the fokkers nout try to eat the damn guns. How do u explain that to ur dentist??? No wonder no one believes in any of ur fixes. Just sayin...:86::86:

[jocko]

we

Muggsy,

I agree that it was a fairly easy fix. I did state that when I detail stripped the slide after the initial issue arose the striker, striker channel, and striker spring were not at all what I would call dirty. Nothing that I would not expect from an EDC gun. So how much debris in the striker channel will cause a failure to fire like I experienced? Bothers me that little of debris totally stopped this gun. Doesn't give me that warm fuzzy feeling. You can be sure that I will hose out the striker channel regularly now. Hopefully I don't start WWIII by saying this...but I have many other guns that do not show any signs of hiccups until they are majorly dirty, however, none of them are this small and easy to conceal. Now that I now what it takes to keep this P380 running I will be more vigilant.

never know what cvan cause an issue. Could be even that your taking the striker channel apart andcleaning it fixe dthe issue and maybe what ever caused it is gone. doesnt really mean alot of crapola has to flow out, although we have seen this before. Accept it as fixed,and move on. IMO maybe these little 380 as smallas they are just might need more TLC than the normal big gun, Just sayin. Again they are for most part a defense gun andnot really a range gun that your gonna put 500 rounds a week through it, and if so, IMO be prepared to domore maintenance than the bigger guns require.
Properly prepping any gun, especialy these small ass gun should be a for-certainty. eliminate all the possable before it happens, so if then it happens u know that #1 the striker channel was perfect, #2, the magazine was put together correctly, #3 u have lubed the gun properly, #4 ur shooting good ammo. Then if issue arise, try to trouble-shoot it and if all else fails a call or email to kahr and let them fix what they made. If one claims to loose faith in thegun, IMO one should peddle it as soon as it comes back form the factory. Don't live with a looser.I did that with my first wife..

[muggsy]

Glad you figured it out. Hopefully that was it.
I keep my Kahrs super clean. You have to if you want a smooth running gun. They just aren't made quite as well as S&W and Glock.

Keep talking smokersteve. I find you rather amusing. Kahr pistols aren't as well made as a glock or S&W. That's a hoot. Looks like a piece of crap to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRH...e=results_main

[muggsy]

Muggsy,

I agree that it was a fairly easy fix. I did state that when I detail stripped the slide after the initial issue arose the striker, striker channel, and striker spring were not at all what I would call dirty. Nothing that I would not expect from an EDC gun. So how much debris in the striker channel will cause a failure to fire like I experienced? Bothers me that little of debris totally stopped this gun. Doesn't give me that warm fuzzy feeling. You can be sure that I will hose out the striker channel regularly now. Hopefully I don't start WWIII by saying this...but I have many other guns that do not show any signs of hiccups until they are majorly dirty, however, none of them are this small and easy to conceal. Now that I now what it takes to keep this P380 running I will be more vigilant.

Any debris in the hole in the slide that the striker passes through can cause a problem and that can occur in any striker fired gun. I believe that yours was a freak occurrence. If you use the non-chlorinated break cleaner and clean your gun after every use you shouldn't have a problem. I have full confidence in the Kahr pistols that I carry. Many of us on this forum do. With a little TLC you'll have confidence in yours, too. Welcome aboard.

[muggsy]

never know what cvan cause an issue. Could be even that your taking the striker channel apart andcleaning it fixe dthe issue and maybe what ever caused it is gone. doesnt really mean alot of crapola has to flow out, although we have seen this before. Accept it as fixed,and move on. IMO maybe these little 380 as smallas they are just might need more TLC than the normal big gun, Just sayin. Again they are for most part a defense gun andnot really a range gun that your gonna put 500 rounds a week through it, and if so, IMO be prepared to domore maintenance than the bigger guns require.
Properly prepping any gun, especialy these small ass gun should be a for-certainty. eliminate all the possable before it happens, so if then it happens u know that #1 the striker channel was perfect, #2, the magazine was put together correctly, #3 u have lubed the gun properly, #4 ur shooting good ammo. Then if issue arise, try to trouble-shoot it and if all else fails a call or email to kahr and let them fix what they made. If one claims to loose faith in thegun, IMO one should peddle it as soon as it comes back form the factory. Don't live with a looser.I did that with my first wife..

How your first wife stayed with you as long as she did is a complete mystery to me, Jocko. You second wife must have the patience of a saint, you old fart.

[smokersteve]

Keep talking smokersteve. I find you rather amusing. Kahr pistols aren't as well made as a glock or S&W. That's a hoot. Looks like a piece of crap to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRH...e=results_main

The end of that video must have been cut off. You know the part that says you need to meticulously clean the gun frequently or you will have issues with this finely designed firearm.

Hey, try shooting 1000 rounds from your Kahr without cleaning it
I can do it with any S&W or Glock I've ever owned.

[muggsy]

The end of that video must have been cut off. You know the part that says you need to meticulously clean the gun frequently or you will have issues with this finely designed firearm.

Hey, try shooting 1000 rounds from your Kahr without cleaning it
I can do it with any S&W or Glock I've ever owned.

You'll find the information on cleaning you Kahr in the owners manual. The fact that a gun will run a thousand rounds without cleaning doesn't mean that it built better. It means that it's build with greater tolerances. Loose like a 1911. When was the last time that you had to fire a thousand rounds in a gun fight? Go back to Glock Talk.

[smokersteve]

Go back to Glock Talk.

Glock Talk...not familiar with that...maybe someone who knows everything can fill me in about it.

[Irelander]

I'd say that's enough bantering between you two. Let's act like mature adults and not be the guy that has to have the last word. This thread is not about which of you two have the biggest balls...so take that attitude to another thread.

[DavidS]

Hey, try shooting 1000 rounds from your Kahr without cleaning it
I can do it with any S&W or Glock I've ever owned.

Whether you HAVE TO follow the manufacturer's recommendations or not should not be a point of argument. Glock and Kahr both have the same cleaning recommendations. I expect you do not sell many guns, at least to anyone who reads your philosophy on gun care.

From PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE OF THE GLOCK SEMI-AUTOMATIC “SAFE ACTION” PISTOL
FREQUENCY OF SERVICING
Your GLOCK pistol should be field stripped, cleaned and lubricated as follows:
1. When brand new, before the first time it is fired, plus
2. At least once a month, plus
3. After each time it is fired, plus
4. As required. This will be determined by the pistol’s exposure………

From Kahr Arms OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS
CLEANING AND LUBRICATION
Before the initial shooting of the new KAHR Pistol, the pistol should be disassembled following the instruction in the manual and cleaned with a commercial gun cleaning solvent.
After each shooting session, the cleaning process should be repeated to remove firing residue from the inside and outside of the Barrel, Slide, Frame and Magazine.
Once cleaned, all parts should be lightly lubricated with a commercial gun lubricant. Follow solvent and lubricant manufacturer’s instructions.
The handgun should be kept clean and properly lubricated at all times. Lubricants can evaporate over time. Therefore, lightly lubricate the handgun once a month whether or not it has been fired.

[100percent]

Sure pays to keep any weapon clean to insure reliability and long life.

If anything the Kahrs are a tad too tight, helps in the accuracy department. Never shot a SW semi auto but my Glocks have a more generous chamber which is probably a good thing to insure reliability at the expense of some accuracy.

I don't think that having a bit tighter tolerances implies less quality.

Glad you figured it out. Hopefully that was it.
I keep my Kahrs super clean. You have to if you want a smooth running gun. They just aren't made quite as well as S&W and Glock.