Glock 23 to CW9 Questions

[jocko]

not sure an apology was even needed Bawanna. Citurs Dog IMo needs to count to 10 before he comes back with a post like that. Might must save alot of embarrasment on each side. If your gonna wear your feelings on the end of your shirt sleeve then this forum will bite you where u don't want to get bit. Book um Dano!!

[jim3597]

Amen Jocko!:75:

[citrusdog]

No worries about the woman and children. There will be no lead flying from my direction. Perhaps in my direction but I'm not fighting back.
I fully intended to just leave this thread and roll away but find it nawing at my innards.
Anyone who has been with kahrtalk more than 1 day knows that bawanna don't put nobody down, he don't look down his nose at nobody, and rarely will criticize anyone. I'm a firm to each his own believer. Occasionally someone new or old will take it upon themselves to pick on some of our members who I consider very good pals. THAT will usually set me off which of course really shouldn't be frightening to anyone of course. My thoughts and opinions are my very own, many times folks don't agree with me, sometimes nobody agrees with me and you know what, that's ok.
I once again and for the last time apologize to citrus dog if I hit the wrong buttons. I'm also a firm believer that when the balloon goes up I'll be resorting to tribal instincts, I'll just do the best I can, draw, aim, push trigger and let God sort us out. I've been a student of the gun and all things related a whole lot longer than 2 years, still dont have it figured out. I've not published a 3x5 card to share with anyone. I dont claim to be an expert at anything and question the credibility of anyone who claims to be. I find that those who claim to be so are usually the least qualified.
In summary, I get along with 99.7% (just a guess, not a rocket scientist) of people. I don't slander or put down anyone unless they just sorely deserve it. Whatever works for anyone is A ok with me. Give the children ice cream and roses to the ladies, this battle is over on my end.

You really have a tendency to speak out of one side of your mouth - and then other. We have enough of those in the white house. You preach to people that you don’t put anyone down… Yet, you slip in subtle little jabs that seem to come off your keyboard - without control.

Well, let’s see here…

”Anyone who has been with kahrtalk more than 1 day knows that bawanna don't put nobody down, he don't look down his nose at nobody, and rarely will criticize anyone.”

*** okay, good guy

Really? Well, according to you I was sleeping for the last 23 months and 2 weeks.

*** okay, bad guy

“I once again and for the last time apologize to citrus dog if I hit the wrong buttons.”

*** okay, good guy

“I've been a student of the gun and all things related a whole lot longer than 2 years, still dont have it figured out. I've not published a 3x5 card to share with anyone. I dont claim to be an expert at anything and question the credibility of anyone who claims to be. I find that those who claim to be so are usually the least qualified.”

*** okay, bad guy

”In summary, I get along with 99.7% (just a guess, not a rocket scientist) of people.”

*** okay, good/bad guy… get along with everyone except me (the rocket scientist)

Well, okay, let me ask you a couple of questions…

Have you interview 20+ people (both male and female) that have been fired upon at short and medium range - and have lived to tell about it?

Have you collected over 70 pages of the most detailed information surrounding each and every event - to the fullest level of detail?

Have you sat with these and other people who train for events like these - and discussed current training techniques and their corresponding responses?

Have you considered all exposure, vulnerabilities and motion in situational defense?

Have you considered that woman and men have different exposures and challenges - and they must take different to satisfy their maximum the chance of winning the altercation - if it arises.

If you have pursued all of this information and collected it… your entire outlook changes. You begin to realize that many new and different aspects begin to become paramount - as they relate to personal defense.


I can only tell you so much.. before I begin to educate the bad guys. BTW, do you defend your home with shotgun - and own a safe for your guns? If so, you might just be more old school than I thought... Did you know there are far superior methods to address issues like these?


Signed,

The Rocket Scientist

[Bawanna]

You really have a tendency to speak out of one side of your mouth - and then other. We have enough of those in the white house. You preach to people that you don’t put anyone down… Yet, you slip in subtle little jabs that seem to come off your keyboard - without control.

Well, let’s see here…

”Anyone who has been with kahrtalk more than 1 day knows that bawanna don't put nobody down, he don't look down his nose at nobody, and rarely will criticize anyone.”

*** okay, good guy

Really? Well, according to you I was sleeping for the last 23 months and 2 weeks.

*** okay, bad guy

“I once again and for the last time apologize to citrus dog if I hit the wrong buttons.”

*** okay, good guy

“I've been a student of the gun and all things related a whole lot longer than 2 years, still dont have it figured out. I've not published a 3x5 card to share with anyone. I dont claim to be an expert at anything and question the credibility of anyone who claims to be. I find that those who claim to be so are usually the least qualified.”

*** okay, bad guy

”In summary, I get along with 99.7% (just a guess, not a rocket scientist) of people.”

*** okay, good/bad guy… get along with everyone except me (the rocket scientist)

Well, okay, let me ask you a couple of questions…

Have you interview 20+ people (both male and female) that have been fired upon at short and medium range - and have lived to tell about it?

Have you collected over 70 pages of the most detailed information surrounding each and every event - to the fullest level of detail?

Have you sat with these and other people who train for events like these - and discussed current training techniques and their corresponding responses?

Have you considered all exposure, vulnerabilities and motion in situational defense?

Have you considered that woman and men have different exposures and challenges - and they must take different to satisfy their maximum the chance of winning the altercation - if it arises.

If you have pursued all of this information and collected it… your entire outlook changes. You begin to realize that many new and different aspects begin to become paramount - as they relate to personal defense.


I can only tell you so much.. before I begin to educate the bad guys. BTW, do you defend your home with shotgun - and own a safe for your guns? If so, you might just be more old school than I thought... Did you know there are far superior methods to address issues like these?


Signed,

The Rocket Scientist

I'm not going to do verbal judo with you and this will be my last communication with you. For what it's worth you are improving in your communication skills in that your at least giving a brief summary of what you researched, something that might have been valuable in your original post, instead of bragidacio that you can't share with mere mortals, it's sooo good. In my own infinitely small mind your reinventing the wheel as all the things you've mentioned have been researched before both in civiallian capacities and LE officer scenarios. While I spend precious little time reading them they are interesting but doubt they will save me in a civillian capacity in a gun fight.
In case it matters I do not defend my home with a shotgun although I have them available for options. I do indeed own a gun safe but my home defense and ccw weapons are not in it unless I'm away for an extended period of time.
I'm sure theres 1 or 2 others here that would gladly sent you a check for your invaluable information but I think I'll just stumble thru as I have and hope for the best.
Regards
Missouri Dirt Farmer

[MichSteve]

Guys, guys, I am sorry I started the post could the moderator please stop or remove this post.

[jocko]

Mich Steve. No harm,no foul. I just feel citrus dog wants to argue which is his right, but also our right to just from now on ignore and move on which is what I fully intend to do as of this post..

Personally Bawanna, u own us no explanation of what kind of defense you have in your home...

[Bawanna]

Guys, guys, I am sorry I started the post could the moderator please stop or remove this post.

MichSteve, it's cool, it was a good thread. Keep em coming. I'm going to a neutral corner and I'm filled with joy. We experience this from time to time and it sometimes actually relieves the boredom on slow days. I'm sure there's lots of lurkers out there flopping around on the ground laughing till their sides hurt.
I hold no animosity, for some reason we're just not gelling.
Thank goodness we don't each own a country or something where we could start a war, no good for me. I'd be Switzerland.
I'll be 10 10 on the side.

Peace out.

[MichSteve]

Thanks for the reply Bawanna45cal I was just looking for information, I understand some just like to be difficult, so just ignoring them is best. No harm done on my part.

[Bawanna]

Information is what this place is all about. I wouldn't even label him difficult, that would be picking sides which shouldn't be necessary around here, but just in case it ever does, I want you on my side.
Nothing wrong on your part and no harm done. Where's the white flag sticky. Best I could come up with.

[jocko]

bawanna

Information is what this place is all about. I wouldn't even label him difficult, that would be picking sides which shouldn't be necessary around here, but just in case it ever does, I want you on my side.
Nothing wrong on your part and no harm done. Where's the white flag sticky. Best I could come up with.

the french have all the white flags

[Bawanna]

Your right I forgot. My Bad!

[Michael W.]

Well I may be late in laying my scent onto this fire hydrant, but to
get things back on point, as I have replied in other "Glock vs. Kahr"
posts.....I don't think that it's really an "either/or" proposition
but rather a "both". I won't go into the boring details of why a Glock
19 or 23 is a highly desirable weapon to have on hand. I also will not
argue against why a "proven reliable" Kahr will accompany you places
where your G23 or G26 will probably stay at home in the safe.

Keep the Glock, save up and buy a Kahr. Two guns is always better than one

Michael-

P.S. My opinion is wholly my own but was derived after at least 2 weeks of
intense research. Bawanna, please don't ask me what I was doing during the
latter 12 of those days......it's not a pretty picture......you'll regret asking
me.....and no you won't find it on Youtube......

[Bawanna]

Well I may be late in laying my scent onto this fire hydrant, but to
get things back on point, as I have replied in other "Glock vs. Kahr"
posts.....I don't think that it's really an "either/or" proposition
but rather a "both". I won't go into the boring details of why a Glock
19 or 23 is a highly desirable weapon to have on hand. I also will not
argue against why a "proven reliable" Kahr will accompany you places
where your G23 or G26 will probably stay at home in the safe.

Keep the Glock, save up and buy a Kahr. Two guns is always better than one

Michael-

P.S. My opinion is wholly my own but was derived after at least 2 weeks of
intense research. Bawanna, please don't ask me what I was doing during the
latter 12 of those days......it's not a pretty picture......you'll regret asking
me.....and no you won't find it on Youtube......

Right when the fire dies down to embers and coals, there's always someone comes along with a can of kerosene.
Not a pretty picture huh? I feel kind of stupid but what's Youtube? Like whatagrip? No regrets, I'm not asking, would like to see the picture though.

[jlottmc]

I carry a P45 in about 4-6 o'clock, I use either a Don Hume model unknown, or an el cheapo tuckable from CTD, as for the Glock vs Kahr, I agree two guns are always better than one. If Glock trips your trigger, then by all means, I personally don't care about a Glock one way or the other. Your Kahr should be able to hold it's own against the Glock or any other taker, if you do your part. Bottom line, if you like shoot it, if not don't. As for the Glock being too large, some might say that, but I won't. I carry full size steel framed guns all the time, and to barrow a line from Clint Smith..."It's a big gun when I put it on, and it's a big gun when I pull it out."

[RogerP9fan]

This thread has been very helpful to me as well. (Day 1 here)