CW380 What is the fix for the slide not holding open on on empy mag?

[Arkhog]

Thanks to those with real solutions

The gun does not lock back manually. The ammo is not weak. I am not shooting with a limp wrist. A huge thanks to anyone that offered a real solution without blaming the shooter. The number of posts on a forum is not an indication of real firearms knowledge. Arkhog has spoken.

[spud]

The gun does not lock back manually. The ammo is not weak. I am not shooting with a limp wrist. A huge thanks to anyone that offered a real solution without blaming the shooter. The number of posts on a forum is not an indication of real firearms knowledge. Arkhog has spoken.

Since you you say that it doesn't lock back manually, you may want to check your magazine. I had a six rd magazine that wouldn't lock back the slide manually on a P380. In my case taking apart the magazine and cleaning it out was enough to fix it, might want to check your magazine spring too. Good luck on getting it sorted out.

[Arkhog]

Good suggestion on the magazine cleaning. I have had the mag apart but not recently. I may do that again. I would like to try a different mag but I will need to purchase one. I only have the one that was shipped with the gun.

[gb6491]

Since you you say that it doesn't lock back manually, you may want to check your magazine. I had a six rd magazine that wouldn't lock back the slide manually on a P380. In my case taking apart the magazine and cleaning it out was enough to fix it, might want to check your magazine spring too. Good luck on getting it sorted out.

Good suggestion on the magazine cleaning. I have had the mag apart but not recently. I may do that again. I would like to try a different mag but I will need to purchase one. I only have the one that was shipped with the gun.

I might also suggest to check the orientation of the spring to the follower while you have the mag apart. We've had folks report receiving a new magazine with the spring installed incorrectly.
Correct:

One other thing: if you take the slide off for a better view, then reinstall the slide stop and insert a magazine, does the stop contact the follower shelf or is it more like this?
Photo by Sohum63

Regards,
Greg

[glock2619]

Thanks for the encouragement yqt! Yes, I do own those Glocks, as well as several others. Also a Kahr CM9 which has been flawless. And my apologies to Ark for jumping in on his thread. It just seemed That it was the exact problem I was experiencing, and I was eager to see if there was something I was missing. I've searched this problem extensively through this forum as well as several others. New style followers, Kel-tec mag springs, etc. I hope to see this little gun become reliable enough to carry, as I really like the size as compared to the CM9 for when I need the ability for "deep" concealment. If I come up with a remedy that helps to solve it, i'll be sure to share. Most of the threads I've visited regarding this problem seem to be dealing with the slide lock/release spring, but mine seems to be working just as it should.

[yqtszhj]

Good pictures Greg. Those right there should put ark hog right on the problem.

[muggsy]

The gun does not lock back manually. The ammo is not weak. I am not shooting with a limp wrist. A huge thanks to anyone that offered a real solution without blaming the shooter. The number of posts on a forum is not an indication of real firearms knowledge. Arkhog has spoken.

I said if the gun locks back manually the problem is in the ammo or the shooter. If it doesn't lock back manually that's a horse of a different color. Let's try to be a little less sensitive here. I'm about as insensitive as they come. Now, if your gun won't lock back manually the problem is in the slide lock, follower or mag spring. Pressure from the mag spring against the follower should over come the pressure of the slide stop spring causing the slide stop to move upward capturing the slide as it travels fully to the rear and starts to come forward again. If that's not happening it's your job to determine why. Could be a broken follower, weak mag spring, improperly adjusted slide stop spring, etc. I'm really a nice old guy who is here to help you. It's just that I'm an equal opertunity offender and not to be taken seriously most of the time. This is one of the few times I'm being serious. Stick around. You'll learn to love me in no time. Bawanna does.

[yqtszhj]

This is getting interesting.

[Buzzard45]

My $.02

After looking at Greg`s picture #2, i have a (feeble) idea. the follower is barely touching the slide release button, if at all.
a simple test and possible fix:
take a piece of tape (thick like duct) and place it on the side of the magazine opposite the slide release, insert the mag. (even if it`s tight,this is only a temporary test) see if this helps engage the slide lock better. If this helps, the (semi)permanent solution might be to bend, ever so slightly the side of the magazine opposite the slide release inward to force the follower to contact the release button better. a bench vise and dowel would be my choice of tools.
DISCLAIMER: I have not done this as i have never needed to.
Disclaimer #2: I don`t have a 380 to test

[muggsy]

This is getting interesting.

You're becoming a real vouyer, yqtszhj. Don't be afraid to get your feet wet. BTW, is yqtszhj pronounced exactly the way it's spelled?

[b4uqzme]

Voyeur? Never been a big fan of the French. But Yahtzee's OK in my book.

[Arkhog]

gb6491.....A great post with pics! Thank You.

[yqtszhj]

BTW, is yqtszhj pronounced exactly the way it's spelled?

Yep, you say it exactly how its spelled.

[Arkhog]

Thanks for helping muggsy

I'm really a nice old guy who is here to help you. It's just that I'm an equal opertunity offender and not to be taken seriously most of the time. This is one of the few times I'm being serious. Stick around. You'll learn to love me in no time. Bawanna does.

I read this forum long before I ever attempted my first post. I am a member of several other forums that I read but rarely post anything. I worried a great deal before I made my first post because there are many here that are so loyal to Kahr. I knew that several members would try to blame anyone or anything except the Kahr product. You were one of the ones that I feared the most. Thank you for being a "really nice old guy".

I have the gun and magazine apart tonight. I will check several things.

[yqtszhj]

After looking at Greg`s picture #2, i have a (feeble) idea. the follower is barely touching the slide release button, if at all.
a simple test and possible fix:
take a piece of tape (thick like duct) and place it on the side of the magazine opposite the slide release, insert the mag. (even if it`s tight,this is only a temporary test) see if this helps engage the slide lock better. If this helps, the (semi)permanent solution might be to bend, ever so slightly the side of the magazine opposite the slide release inward to force the follower to contact the release button better. a bench vise and dowel would be my choice of tools.
DISCLAIMER: I have not done this as i have never needed to.
Disclaimer #2: I don`t have a 380 to test

That may be it. That is first one i have heard like that. Most folks have a problem with the nub on the slide release being too long and hitting every round causing pre mature slide lock.