CW45 doesn't chamber properly

[jrz_dad]

Hi guys - need some input...own a CW45 (only owner). Basic problem is the pistol will fire the first round, and then after that - its a crap shoot as to firing...the following round "sometimes' will not chamber properly (the slide is setback slightly - its noticeable) - and then other times it will fire a few rounds then suddently not chamber. I have noticed that "when" it chambers, it works perfectly... I have managed to fire about 500 rounds thru the pistol (and thats been a time consuming chore!!) - i've left the slide locked open for a few days to work the spring as well. Even sat in the chair and worked the slide a few hundred times while watching the TV - this thing is driving me nuts!...I reload so I thought it was the reloads...rechecked them again and they are factory specs...thought maybe the charge was too low and not cycling the slide properly...made up a new batch that was close to max charge...same issue...I bought factory stuff (cheapo...midrange...expensive) - this thing does this will ALL ammo so its not picky there. Thought maybe I was 'limpwristing" it...NOPE, even with making sure i gripped properly, it STILL will have that chambering issue..

SO, what have I missed guys? I'm at a loss here...its a nice weapon but right now, its a paperweight -OR- if I have to defend myself with this, I hope I can hit the attacker in the head or poke out an eye when I THROW it at him...cuz it damn sure wont hurt him any other way...

Help me Obi-Wan...ya'lls my only hope

James
Lawton, OK

[yqtszhj]

If you've fired 500 rounds through it and you're still having a problem and you bought it new I'd call kahr. It should have smoothed out by now. Don't mention your reloads just tell them it does it with factory ammo.

I'll look for the cw45 link started by greg and you can ckeck for domething obvious but a feed trouble after that many rounds therd may be an issue.

[yqtszhj]

Here is the cw45 thread.

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...sues-and-fixes

[jrz_dad]

Thanks yqtszhj...I'll check it out...understood bout the reload part...most companies dont like folks shooting reloads but figured it was ok to mention here as i wanted to give as much info as i could so ya'll can diagnose this from afar...'preciate the info!!...J

[CJB]

What ammo

[Iggy]

First time out with my wife's Cw45, we found my reloads wouldn't work, nor would Military Ball ammo. Bought some factory stuff and it when through it like poop through a goose.

A little checking and experimenting and I found my reloads would work if I shortened the OAL by a freckle and they work fine too.

Haven't tried anymore military.

[jrz_dad]

using all ball ammo - even the reloads... i've tried increasing the powder and shortening the OAL in my reloads - no discernable effect...

here is a list of the ammo i've tried...

Monarch 45 acp 230gn
UMC 45acp, 230gn,
Winchester USA 45acp. 230gn
Federal UMC, 45acp, 230gn
Federal Champion 45acp, 230gn

None of this works in this pistol...i have the same issue regardless of the ammo i've tried so far...

[CJB]

Basic problem is ....following round "sometimes' will not chamber.

I suspect ammo.

When the ammo goes into the chamber,but the side fails to fully go forward, its usually a) a tight chamber/oversize ammo or b) an extractor issue.

I'm thinking not an extractor issue (yet), but maybe an ammo related issue.

Try some of the hottest stuff you can find, for break-in.

Its not limp wristing.

CLEAN the chamber well.

With the barrel removed, gauge each round by dropping it into the chamber while checking to make sure it falls all the way in, flush with the barrel hood. Use no finger pressure, only gravity... see how the ammo fits!

Report back!

[jrz_dad]

Thanks CJB - i will give that a try...any 'recommendations' on HOT ammo?...anyone? Thanks guys!!

[Longitude Zero]

Give Kahr a chance to give it a look see/work over. If after that it still does it then find ammo it does shoot and avoid what is does not. Kinda like look where you want the vehicle to go and not at the obstacle you are trying to avoid hitting.

[Bawanna]

With the barrel removed, gauge each round by dropping it into the chamber while checking to make sure it falls all the way in, flush with the barrel hood. Use no finger pressure, only gravity... see how the ammo fits!

I do this but I push the round into the chamber as hard as I can with my thumb or finger. Then tip the barrel up and see if the round falls out easy like.
If it don't you got the things CJB mentioned. A long OAL, or a tight chamber or combination of both or either.

My reloads were a smidge long for my PM45 as well. Shortened them up just a smidge and they work well.

[gb6491]

Please allow me to add my to what CJB and Bawanna have posted:
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...743#post354743

[jrz_dad]

Thanks everyone...i've decided to send it into Kahr for their evaluation...will let you know what they found out...I appreciate all the input!! you've been VERY helpful...James

[jrz_dad]

Ya know GB6491....I think after reading your 2 cents, it may be that freebore issue you discuss...i have had that happen a bit during the break in period...BUT, Kahr has it now...lets see what they recommend...if they cant fix it...I bet your solution would!!...Thanks again!!...J

[jrz_dad]

OK, just a quick update...Kahr folks got back with me on this issue...seems their gunsmith has determined the FRAME is the culprit ...they are replacing it and sending the gun back to my FFL guy (new serial number and all that stuff)...as of now, no charges to me for this...well, other than the FFL fee ...but that's a small price to pay to have this 'fixed"...Thanks for all the input guys!! its appreciated!!