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  • Is CW9 rated for +P ammo?

    Want to use Rem 124 Golden Saber +P but not sure if its rated for such.

    EDITED: finally found thru search that +P is acceptable.
    CT380,CW9, P45, Colt 1991A1, 1911A1 Rem-Rand, Sig GSR 45acp, Sig Ultra 45acp,Colt New Agent 9mm, German Makarov 9X18, M1 Carbines, Walther P22, Remington Nylon 66, North Amer 22, Ruger LCR 38cal, S&W Victory 38spl, S&W M15 38, Remington 870 Police 12ga.

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    Lucky Gunner.com recent ammo tests indicated that Remington Golden Saber 147 gr., 124 gr., and 124gr+P all performed essentially the same from the CW9.



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    • #3
      Thanks Kwh. Local gun store had the 124 so thats what I bought. Popped off 3 rounds and 3 of standard strength and could feel slightly more kick, but nothing significant.
      CT380,CW9, P45, Colt 1991A1, 1911A1 Rem-Rand, Sig GSR 45acp, Sig Ultra 45acp,Colt New Agent 9mm, German Makarov 9X18, M1 Carbines, Walther P22, Remington Nylon 66, North Amer 22, Ruger LCR 38cal, S&W Victory 38spl, S&W M15 38, Remington 870 Police 12ga.

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      • #4
        There is no SAAMI spec for .380+P. That's why very few gun manufacturers ok it. Kahr Arms is one of the exceptions to that rule.
        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by muggsy View Post
          There is no SAAMI spec for .380+P.

          The TS asked about +P ammunition for a CW9.

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          • #6
            The CW line of Kahr pistols don't have the Walther match grade barrels and are not +P rated. That is what Kahr told me....
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            • #7
              Isn't +P 9mm Para just NATO spec? It's not a huge bump in pressure. I never use +P ammo cause I just don't see the point.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bobshouse View Post
                The CW line of Kahr pistols don't have the Walther match grade barrels and are not +P rated. That is what Kahr told me....
                thats odd, I have never read in any owners manual that any kahr was not rqated for +P. the barrel difference makes zero difference..
                . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                  There is no SAAMI spec for .380+P. That's why very few gun manufacturers ok it. Kahr Arms is one of the exceptions to that rule.
                  not doubting u muggs,k but are u sure of that. Thre is alot of +P380 ammo out there today. Just sayin
                  . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jocko View Post
                    not doubting u muggs,k but are u sure of that. Thre is alot of +P380 ammo out there today. Just sayin
                    Decide for yourself if SAAMI has a .380 +P rating:
                    http://www.saami.org/specifications_...essureData.pdf

                    Isn't +P 9mm Para just NATO spec? It's not a huge bump in pressure. I never use +P ammo cause I just don't see the point.

                    9mm +P is not the same as 9mm NATO. A lot of NATO rated 9mm is +P, some isn't. NATO 9mm is rated by bullet weight and muzzle energy, not pressure. Current US issue military 9mm ammo is in the +P range.

                    The only reason to use higher pressure ammo is to get more velocity and energy than you can get out of standard load. But there are some +P rated loads that aren't very fast, and those aren't worth it. Other loads do take better advantage of the additional pressure to boost the effectiveness of 9mm - usually with bonded core bullets.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jocko View Post
                      not doubting u muggs,k but are u sure of that. Thre is alot of +P380 ammo out there today. Just sayin
                      I'm positive of that, Jocko There is no SAAMI spec for .380 ACP +P. All Kahr pistols are +P rated and Kahr is one of only a few manufacturers to ok the use of +P in all of their guns.
                      Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bobshouse View Post
                        The CW line of Kahr pistols don't have the Walther match grade barrels and are not +P rated. That is what Kahr told me....
                        You were told wrong, Bubshouse. If that was correct you'd be able to find that information in the owners manual. You won't. All Kahr pistols are +P rated.
                        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                        Colt Gold Cup 70 series
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                        Kahr CM9
                        Kahr P380

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                        • #13
                          I do carry my CT380 a lot also; in fact it has been my primary until I recently got a good holster from a member here for the CW9 and have since been carrying it. So, i"m interested in "carry" ammo for both guns. I reload mild loads for both and shoot in my back yard, but for carry, obviously want a factory load.
                          CT380,CW9, P45, Colt 1991A1, 1911A1 Rem-Rand, Sig GSR 45acp, Sig Ultra 45acp,Colt New Agent 9mm, German Makarov 9X18, M1 Carbines, Walther P22, Remington Nylon 66, North Amer 22, Ruger LCR 38cal, S&W Victory 38spl, S&W M15 38, Remington 870 Police 12ga.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bobshouse View Post
                            The CW line of Kahr pistols don't have the Walther match grade barrels and are not +P rated. That is what Kahr told me....
                            Oh the person you spoke with was making it up on the fly...

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                            • #15
                              Per Kahrs website

                              http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp

                              Q. Which ammunition is recommended for use with Kahr firearms?

                              A.
                              Kahr Arms does not endorse any particular brand of ammunition. However, not every brand of ammunition produces the same results. Please check the markings on the barrel hood of your firearm to determine the proper caliber. Kahr suggests a visit to a pistol range to test fire different brands of ammunition in the proper caliber. Kahr do not recommend steel case, reloads or un-jacketed ammunition. The Kahr pistol is rated to +P.
                              CW9 1000 rounds * CW380 950 rounds
                              www.jdlautodesign.com

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