CW45 going in for service (no trigger)

[Automatic]

This will be the first time I've EVER had to send a firearm in for service. I hope that it'll be a decent experience.

During a class yesterday my CW45 stopped working after approx 100rds.

Chambered a round, pulled the trigger, & nothing. No tension on the trigger, no click. Malfunction drill, eject live round, pull trigger..nothing. Trigger moves back with no resistance. Class over for me.

Got it home..had to remove back plate & springs in order to get slide off.
When trigger is pulled I can see the trigger bar moving in the mag well BUT the cocking cam doesn't move at all! There is spring tension on the cam. I can move it by hand and it returns to the forward position. Wondering if the trigger bar broke where there's engagement of the cam.

Spoke to Kahr service today. Told me to have my dealer send it in. If all goes well expect about 3 week turnaround.

This is my primary carry gun. I'm sure it'll get fixed..Just wondering if I can trust it anymore.
I was willing to overlook it not feeding all ammo types & the slide releasing on it's own when positively inserting a fresh magazine (happens about 30% of time) but, having a gun go completely inoperable is something I've NEVER had happen in 30 yrs. I've got firearms with several thousand more rounds through then than this one.

I love the economics & the trigger on the Kahr. Much more than my G19. I can shoot it as well as my 1911 Springer that I've owned for over 25 yrs...but, trust is a HUGE thing, especial on my EDC. Here's hoping they can restore it.
Respectfully,


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[CJB]

Trigger spring not lifting the bar

[b4uqzme]

...This is my primary carry gun. I'm sure it'll get fixed..Just wondering if I can trust it anymore.

Of course you can.

P.S. CJB's probably right based on your description.

[CJB]

Back at a real keyboard....

You might want to lift the sideplate and see what's going on there.

The trigger spring will give return to the trigger, the trigger BAR spring give lift to the trigger bar.

If the trigger bar spring is dislodged, then... no lift. Its like the trigger is "disconnected" all the time. That is, it feels like it would if the slide were out of battery.

You might want to take a look. There also exists a possibility that some crud, a hanging chad of poly... is preventing the trigger bar movement back upward. And, check the slide disconnection cutout (the circular cut) for a burr that might be causing an issue.

Those are things easily remedied by someone with not too much technical skill, but.....

Kahr will correct the situation too.

[Automatic]

Thx for the replies.

Seems I can't login via the website..so I'll do my best on phone.

I did pull the side plate off.

Trigger bar spring was holding it in place. I even tried seeing if I could engage cocking cam by manually moving the trigger bar up or in more..No go.

I didn't pull the trigger bar out but, it looked to me as though the trigger bar may have broken just beyond where it goes back through the frame.

The 90° bend at the end where it engaged the cocking cam...looks like it may have broke just past the 90.

Took it to dealer this evening. Packaged up and will leave for Kahr in the A.M.

I bought it new 3 yrs (+4 days) ago. I appreciate all the words of support.
Respectfully,

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[yqtszhj]

Trigger spring not lifting the bar

What he said....

[b4uqzme]

They'll fix you up.

[CJB]

Yikes... if the piece broke off the trigger bar, that's a REALLY REALLY RARE occurrence.

Auto ol' man, you might be the first with that problem, or the first in recent memory.

Kahr will fix. Should be no cost.

They might have given you a free pass on the shipping, as you was within 5 years, but too late for that.

[Automatic]

Thx again.
I'll let you all know, what Kahr says.


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[DJK11]

Broken trigger bar, been there

[CJB]

Wow!

[muggsy]

Double wow! First that I've seen. The trigger bar is a stamped part. I hate stamped parts in guns. Unfortunately most guns have stamped parts these days.

[Automatic]

DJK.... Thx for pic. Yeah guess it is possible to break it.
Hope you're happy with yours now.
Respectfully,

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[DJK11]

It broke at about 7,000 rounds. Gun shop/range owner told me the trigger bars brake on their rental Kahrs.

[Automatic]

Just got a call from my dealer, they spoke to Jay at Kahr service. They won't cover the shipping so I'll have to eat that.

When I spoke to their rep the other day, he kept steering me to go through the dealer for the return, instead of shipping it myself..now I see why.

Don't like to hear that a broken trigger bar is a known issue.
I've got between 1500-2000 rds on this gun. If it can't take that without breaking then it's a range gun & not a self defense gun.

How everyone has a great Thanksgiving.
Respectfully,


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