Possible magguts alternative and interesting find

[DevinBreeding]

I was tinkering with my cw380 and lcp magazines today and ran across something interesting. As I was doing that, curiousity got the best of me and I took my KAHR spring and tried to slip it on the lcp follower. Doesn't fit. The LCP follower is a hollow box design and the spring is too wide to fit. So i took the lcp follower and lcp spring and assembled it into the KAHR magazine with the two KAHR baseplate pieces. Hmm, more curiousity. Assembled, it looks and feels factory so I started loading rounds in. I got to six and realized there was some space left so I grabbed another round. Bingo! 7th round slips comfortably in. My curiousity is really stirring now so I cycled a round and topped off the magazine and began hand cycling rounds. They all cycle and eject as easily as the stock spring and follower. So I tried it in my 7 round KAHR magazine and it fits an additional round as well. the 7 converted to 8 is a bit loose as the spring needs maybe another inch for more pressure. The flush magazine is really exciting though since spring pressure feels like the stock spring pressure but with one free round. Now I'm anxious to get out and shoot it to see if reliability is still there. If it is, a call to ruger and about 5 dollars would get you a spring and follower.

I'll post back after shooting which may be a few days. I also may look into a longer wolf spring for the extended magazine. The LCP goes through extractors like crazy so I'm not too upset over loosing two magazines use for now since it doesn't get shot anymore. Last round hold open will also be gone which is a non issue for me since my grip style doesn't allow it on a tiny pocket pistol anyways.

[DevinBreeding]

[Alfonse]

Let us know how it shoots. Thanks!

[Ken L]

I am interested to see if the slide locks back when empty.

[DevinBreeding]

I am interested to see if the slide locks back when empty.

As I mentioned in the post, it does not. The stock follower never did for me anyways because my thumb rests on top of the slide lock when I shoot. I could adjust my grip if I really want to but comfort and controlability are more important.

[Ken L]

Crap. Sorry I didn't read that part....and I read your post at least three times to make sure I didn't ask a question that was answered already. Obviously didn't read your last sentence. Sorry.

[DevinBreeding]

Just an update, the 6 round magazine converted to 7 ran great at the range today. I made a habit of topping off the magazine after clambering a round to simulate how it will be carried. It consistently ran through all 8 rounds through 20 rounds of gold dot and 100 rounds of Winchester flat nose. The extended 7 round converted to 8 consistently failed on the last round. The spring just needs to be longer like the factory KAHR spring but narrow enough to fit the lcp follower. If I can find one, I'm confident it would run like the smaller magazine. Overall, I think I'll keep the smaller magazine setup this way with confidence.

[Dinlong]

I just tried this with both of my cw380 mags and it works great. I had a couple of extra mags laying around for an lcp I don't have anymore. No last round hold open seems like a reasonable trade off for an extra round.

Any idea if this would work with a cm9 and lc9 mags? I have an lc9s that I love, but would pick up a cm9 in a second if I could carry 7+1

Will need to run a couple hundred rounds through the cw380 tomorrow to check for proper function.

[DevinBreeding]

I just tried this with both of my cw380 mags and it works great. I had a couple of extra mags laying around for an lcp I don't have anymore. No last round hold open seems like a reasonable trade off for an extra round.

Any idea if this would work with a cm9 and lc9 mags? I have an lc9s that I love, but would pick up a cm9 in a second if I could carry 7+1

Will need to run a couple hundred rounds through the cw380 tomorrow to check for proper function.

I have an lc9 as well but no KAHR 9mm. It would definitely be interesting to know.

[Alfonse]

Just an update, the 6 round magazine converted to 7 ran great at the range today. I made a habit of topping off the magazine after clambering a round to simulate how it will be carried. It consistently ran through all 8 rounds through 20 rounds of gold dot and 100 rounds of Winchester flat nose. The extended 7 round converted to 8 consistently failed on the last round. The spring just needs to be longer like the factory KAHR spring but narrow enough to fit the lcp follower. If I can find one, I'm confident it would run like the smaller magazine. Overall, I think I'll keep the smaller magazine setup this way with confidence.

Just to make sure I understand, did you try the Kahr extended magazine with the LCP extended magazine spring? If not, wouldn't you expect that to solve the spring issue?

[DevinBreeding]

Just to make sure I understand, did you try the Kahr extended magazine with the LCP extended magazine spring? If not, wouldn't you expect that to solve the spring issue?

I did but the lcp extended magazine uses the same spring as the flush magazine. I did order the Wolff .32/380 spring to see how that fits and I'll update when it arrives