CW45/P45: Flush fit magazine - UPDATED

[JFootin]

That CW mag drops free every time I push the release button!

Oh, you are one the lucky ones with an out of spec gun, according to some one that we know.

[rkammer]

Oh, you are one the lucky ones with an out of spec gun, according to some one that we know.

Gee, I must also have two out of spec CW45s (bought last month). Their mags also fall free when the release is pressed. I've also modded two MetalForm 1911 Officer mags and they fall free too.

[JFootin]

Gee, I must also have two out of spec CW45s (bought last month). Their mags also fall free when the release is pressed. I've also modded two MetalForm 1911 Officer mags and they fall free too.

Dang! All these faulty guns! What is Kahr going to do?

[gb6491]

I've updated some of my first posts to include info about the Mec-Gar 6 round Officer's mag (MGCO4506) that will function correctly (to include locking the slide back) with it's own spring and follower after doing the feed lip mod. Mine needed no mod to the latch window, YMMV.

FWIW, all my modified mags continue to function without issue
Regards,
Greg

[FirstKahr]

I did one for my P45 using a Kimber Compact 7 round mag, Kahr spring and follower. Works perfectly. Only loads 6 rounds but feeds flawlessly and locks back every time. Thank you guys for the roadmap.

[gb6491]

I did one for my P45 using a Kimber Compact 7 round mag, Kahr spring and follower. Works perfectly. Only loads 6 rounds but feeds flawlessly and locks back every time. Thank you guys for the roadmap.

Welcome to the forums FirstKahr!
Thanks for your feedback/contribution to this thread.
Regards,
Greg

[se3388]

I used the same procedure that the OP used and now have several 7 round flush fit mags that have been functioning perfect so far. I had some stainless mags for my Stainless ATI Titan, I got them at http://joes1911magmania.net/


Steve E..........

[Maverick64]

Giving it a try

Any CW45/P45 owners interested in a flush fit magazine option?
The base mag is less expensive than Kahr OEM magazines, but it's very good quality. The magazine will require some modifications, but they can be done with a file or Dremel tool.
It works flawlessly for me as as a 6 round magazine (using a Kahr follower and spring) with proper "lock back" function: YouTube - Kahr CW45: flush fit, six round magazine.
It will work as a 7 round magazine (using the follower and spring that comes in it), but will not lock the slide back. Regardless of this, I think it very usable: especially if you carry without a spare mag: YouTube - Kahr CW45: flush fit 7 round magazine.

UPDATE: this mod can be done to a Mec-Gar 6rd. Officer's magazine (MGCO4506) and mine functions perfectly to include locking back with the Mec-Gar components (follower and spring) installed. I believe this to be the least expensive, viable way to go. Again, this is how I did it, not a "how to": proceed with any modifications at your own risk.


Here's a comparison shot:

Mec-Gar magazine on the left (note style of follower);

My apologies for the corny videos

NOTE to P45 owners: magazines may fit closer to the bottom of the frame in your guns than it does in the CW45. I don't have a p45 to confirm this, but it certainly appears so in LSP972's post: http://kahrtalk.com/showpost.php?p=58903&postcount=94

Regards,
Greg

I am giving this a shot,NO PUN INTENDED!!.....Great info.......will update..............

[Maverick64]

NOTE to P45 owners: The modified magazine may fit closer to the bottom of the frame in your guns than it does in the CW45. I don't have a p45 to confirm this, but it certainly appears so in LSP972's post: http://kahrtalk.com/showpost.php?p=58903&postcount=94
This may (or may not) require a little work on the bottom of the frame to accommodate the magazine.

on my P45 I dont want to cut the frame..............anyone else with a P45??????????????

[Maverick64]

I did one for my P45 using a Kimber Compact 7 round mag, Kahr spring and follower. Works perfectly. Only loads 6 rounds but feeds flawlessly and locks back every time. Thank you guys for the roadmap.

did you have to alter the frame of the P45?...................some posts report cutting the bottom mag well of the frame to accommodate the mag..........That's where I draw the line

[rkammer]

did you have to alter the frame of the P45?...................some posts report cutting the bottom mag well of the frame to accommodate the mag..........That's where I draw the line

I also found that mags that would fit my CW45 would not go into my P45. Instead of cutting the P45 frame, which I didn't want to do, I just filed the upper part of the mag release slot on the mags that wouldn't fit and they now fit and function fine in both pistols. It didn't take more than .002 or .003 to make it.

I still have to slam mags home in my P45 but, it's been that way even with its own mags.

[Maverick64]

I also found that mags that would fit my CW45 would not go into my P45. Instead of cutting the P45 frame, which I didn't want to do, I just filed the upper part of the mag release slot on the mags that wouldn't fit and they now fit and function fine in both pistols. It didn't take more than .002 or .003 to make it.

I still have to slam mags home in my P45 but, it's been that way even with its own mags.

sorry which mag did u use? Kimber , Mec gar and please indicate round count

[rkammer]

sorry which mag did u use? Kimber , Mec gar and please indicate round count

I used 2 MEC GAR 7 round mags and installed the Wilson spring and follower kits. I modified the feed lips per info in this thread. So, I have 7 round capacity in both mags. One mag will lock back every time after last round and the other will lock back most but not all of the time.

[Maverick64]

ok thanks.......if anyone used a kimber 7 round compact would be interested to hear the procedure....................thanks in advance

[gb6491]

ok thanks.......if anyone used a kimber 7 round compact would be interested to hear the procedure....................thanks in advance

Here's the procedure as it was orginally presented:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7813
Regards,
Greg