Is this considered normal tolerances on a CW9???

[9mmFL]

I am a nervous nancy when it comes to my firearms to say the least... But after a recent trip to the range I was oiling it up and noticed what seems to be bulging on the polymer frame. It starts about halfway down the frame, where the steel rails on the front side begin, but those steel rails seem "straight" but the polymer seems to be far from it. Also when holding the pistol up there seems to be about a 1/8 inch gap on the very front side of pistol that if holding it up to light you can see not only a lot of light but also the recoil spring and guide rod. Anyone wanna post some pics of their CW9 if they don't mind? Or even chime in if you have noticed this or know of anyone who has had this "problem". Or am I just being overly concerned with Kahrs lousy tolerances and fit on my pistol. You have to admit it doesn't look very classy...
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[ripley16]

Do a search and you'll find this is all normal. Go shoot without worry.

[Bawanna]

Being concerned and cautious is a good thing. But your all normal as ripley said. If you cycle the gun real slow and watch things happen you see that the unsightly gap above the barrel is needed for the barrel to tip up and cycle. Alot happening in a small package, barrel offset etc.
I don't have a good explanation for the bulge in the frame but it's always there, perhaps a strength issue.
Nothing to worry about really.

[MW surveyor]

What they said.........However, if you fell like you need to get rid of it....send to me post paid and I'll make sure that it gets a good home

[Kahrcw9]

I just went through the same thing and posted on here and googled it.. All Normal.. Seems crazy to me that the barrel sits off to one side a little and the slide sits off to one side of the polymer as well.. My XD is perfectly straight, but it also a lot larger and heavier pistol I guess. My Kahr Shoots just as accurately, or atleast I shoot it just as accurately as my XD and I have 2k rouns through it.. I only have 100 rounds through my CW9 so far, but not problems as of yet..

[jocko]

quote:Or am I just being overly concerned with Kahrs lousy tolerances and fit on my pistol. You have to admit it doesn't look very classy...


if you had did any home work, you would have found that that bulge is their by design. the front rail with the c shape cut out is a vendor mark, the top gap on the slide , is there becuase the barrel actually cams down ward upon extraction . Glocks and to my knowledge most all that are locked breech fired work that way. If that upper play was not there the slide could not retract very far with the barrel caming downward without getting stuck.So you can see the recoil springs, what the big deal there????

everything on the gun is correct. If you don't like any of that "poor" quality, I would peddle it and move on to a better gun. Actually I would not admit that the gun kahrs makes are not classy. They certaily are. You should have done your home work before buying this gun and maybe we would not be reading this stuff..

[jocko]

I could

I just went through the same thing and posted on here and googled it.. All Normal.. Seems crazy to me that the barrel sits off to one side a little and the slide sits off to one side of the polymer as well.. My XD is perfectly straight, but it also a lot larger and heavier pistol I guess. My Kahr Shoots just as accurately, or atleast I shoot it just as accurately as my XD and I have 2k rouns through it.. I only have 100 rounds through my CW9 so far, but not problems as of yet..

be mistaken but the feed rarmp is offset the barrel runs down the middle ofthe gun. the slides are not offset one way or the other.The feed ramp is offset so as to allow the trigger mechanish to function next toit, there fore causing a lower bore axis and another great reason why Kahrs are so compfortable to shoot to. That is a patented design by kahr.

quote: from google:The most obvious patent is the offset barrel feed ramp. When the feed ramp is left instead of center, it allows the trigger mechanism placement to be higher, which in turn provides for a higher handgrip. Felt recoil is reduced when the shooter's hand is closer to the centerline of the bore. The self-cleaning extractor is also closer to the chamber, which allows the entire gun to be thinner compared to the competition

[garyb]

Don't worry about it 9mmFL. No question is a dumb one. You were just posing your question relative to what you were used to seeing. No problem being concerned, cautious nor in asking. Others have posed questions this and even about the slide dropping during dry fire, but it does not move a bit during snap cap fire. Just try shooting it to determine if you like it or not. It may take time to get used to the looonnnggg pull on the trigger. Once you get used to her, you may just think she is kind of thin and sexy. They really are a nice gun. Good luck.

[jocko]

You gotta admit it doesnt look classy. is not a question but a baseless IMO statement.

call it what every u want gary b..

[9mmFL]

I'm by no means a firearm engineer by it just seems that one side seems to bulge alot more on one side, and it's not about research if the bulge in the polymer is greater on one side. I thought forums were for asking questions and receiving others opinions. The gun shoots fine, looks fine but I didn't see it necessary to spend 150$ more for a pm9 when I dont like the grip... Not everything is about the money it's about what u like... But to jocko I never said kahrs don't look classy, I bought it bc if the size and look, but I was referring to the bulge and tolerance gap doesn't look classy. So if you are the only one with a negative response why bother posting it? Everyone else seemed to say don't worry about it it's fine, rather than say do your research... Thanks

[Bawanna]

We do get alot of new posters here who pop in and post negative comments which sometimes triggers quick and unpleasant responses.
I think Jocko got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and the negative comments struck him badly and wrong. It's happened to others and myself as well. Today was just his turn.
I think your last post indicates your not just dropping by to ruin our day and you'll soon be a Kahr addict like the rest of us.

Hang around, Jocko will grow on you. Many start off just like you with a negative image but soon find you'll wonder what we'd do without him around here.

I'm not president of his fan club mind ya, he dont even like me, I've offered him gifts to get on his good side but still he don't like me, never did, probably never will. I feel a little down about it but try not to let it ruin my day.

Your right in that forums are designed to help people and for the most part we do that pretty well here. Just need to work on our manners some.

[jocko]

quote". Or am I just being overly concerned with Kahrs lousy tolerances and fit on my pistol. You have to admit it doesn't look very classy...

u said it , I didn't



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[tconroy]

KAHR MAKES FANTASTIC FIREARMS PERIOD!! DONT QUESTION HOW THEY BUILD THEM, JUST ENJOY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BEST CONCEALMENT GUNS ON THE MARKET. JUST SHOOT THE $#@$ OUT OF IT AND ENJOY. I just got back from Cabelas with a new holster for mine. Bianchi model 100 professional holster size 10A. Leather IWB or just inside the belt. Fits in the pocket and also strong and weak side. It is a clip and I paid 50 bucks for it. It is made for the glock 26&27 9mm and 40auto plus taurus pt 145. I spent over an hour trying different one cause they had a CW9 there. I think it will be the last holster I buy. Sorry if this is a highjack but I thought this guy would also want holster suggestions next Jocko is my go to guy when it comes to knowledge and I respect his posts. It is just people buy things without looking them over well and THEN notice things when they get home with it. Jocko (and everyone else, me included) will stand behind these guns no matter what so dont take it as a negative. He is just overly protective of the Kahrs reputation. Dont get a big head Jocko but your posts made me decide on the Kahr and I thank you for it brother.

[jackblack73]

But to jocko I never said kahrs don't look classy, I bought it bc if the size and look, but I was referring to the bulge and tolerance gap doesn't look classy.

It's not a tolerance gap. It's a necessary feature of the modified Browning locked breech design. The same gap is in my Glock and Sig, as well as millions of other guns out there.

[garyb]

I'm by no means a firearm engineer by it just seems that one side seems to bulge alot more on one side, and it's not about research if the bulge in the polymer is greater on one side. I thought forums were for asking questions and receiving others opinions. The gun shoots fine, looks fine but I didn't see it necessary to spend 150$ more for a pm9 when I dont like the grip... Not everything is about the money it's about what u like... But to jocko I never said kahrs don't look classy, I bought it bc if the size and look, but I was referring to the bulge and tolerance gap doesn't look classy. So if you are the only one with a negative response why bother posting it?

I see what you mean by the bulge on the one side 9mmFL. I looked at my PM40 which of course may be different than your model of polymer. I don't see any bulge on my polymer. If you have a question about your polymer having a defect, you might want to pursue it through Kahr, demonstrate to them clearly or send it back. Don't just give up if you are not happy with something. The bulge does not look right to me either, but I'm not a CW owner. Pursue it until you are happy.

And don't worry about the criticisms. I respect these guys too, but sometimes Kahr lovers can get overly sensitive to critical remarks, recoil, muzzle flip, technical data and things of the such... and just need to "port it" sometimes. They are generally helpful on the forum, but just a little sensitive at times. Yes, I called it like I see it and took it that you were raising a question. I did not take it as criticism of all Kahr products. You were only criticising your piece and it is yours to criticise. You simply feel you have a tolerance problem with your gun. It isn't like Kahr should be considered perfect by us. Besides, You were not bashing any one individual. Simply "port out" the recoil/retalitory comments when you see them.

Good luck with your piece. I hope you get it corrected if it is a real issue.