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  • #31
    Good Luck.

    But warning, If you have several issues stay on top of it with frequent emails and phone calls to Jay. Keep him going back to the gunsmiths to make sure that "ALL" of the problems ARE addressed and not just one.

    I had several issues with my T9 and MK40 during my initial break-in. These were new pistols. They were not the normal break-in issues like some stove pipes or failure to feeds. But serious quality issues like the chamber out of round causing an unusual bulge all the way up the case to about 1/8th inch from the case neck. Also the rear Novak sight kept falling off and I was not able to keep it on even after several attempts to tighten it up and magazines falling out during firing. But I had to send it back several times as they would only address one issue at a time. Cost me a butt load in extra shipping charges.

    But after numerous phone calls and emails Kahr finally stood up to the plate and after the last issue was resolved sent the gun directly to Robar on their dime where it met up with my MK40 that was already there for some final custom work.

    But the all steel Kahrs are a rare breed and I stuck through it to make two beautiful and practical super reliant quality pistols. They now function without one hick-up in the 300 plus rounds I've put through them since I got them back from Robar last month. I've had only one failure to feed and it was because I did not fully click in the magazine during a reload causing the slide to close on an empty chamber.

    At least with a polymer frame you won't have to spend hours grinding and polishing deep machine marks from inside the mag-wells like I did.

    Again good luck and hopefully this will help Kahr take a closer look at what the hell their people are actually doing when they put these things together.

    You can see the final project and some more info on the issues at: http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=6557

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    • #32
      I had several issues with my PM40 when I sent it back. The detailed letter with a numbered list of the issues that was included inside the plastic case with the pistol and a second copy in the outer package probably helped, because it went right to the gunsmith along with the pistol.

      In any event, everything was addressed. By the way, the detailed list inside the case was Eion's suggestion when I called just before shipping to ask about an item not discussed with Jay originally. I believe it takes some of the pressure off the guys manning the phones if you communicate directly to the gunsmith in a way that makes it easy for him / her to check off the pistols repair progress. A written list worked for me. YMMV
      It would be so nice if something made sense for a change.
      -- Alice in Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

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      • #33
        oh no doubt ur right on that tucson, they can't read ones mind. they need a starting point with some background info along with it. Like going to a doctor and tellinghim u have a pain, if you don't tel lhim where he might be looking up ur a-hole.
        . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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        • #34
          Don't get mr wrong they fixed the issues I had before but now a new issues arose so I can understand , the symptoms did not begin until after the 4th mag so I wouldn't expect there smith to shoot as much as I did in there test fire.
          Making Everyday Count :53:
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          • #35
            Didn't help me

            Yep, you're right but that didn't help me.

            I included a detailed letter with a list of all the issues along with a printed PPT slide with PICs and subtitles sent in the box as well.

            Still took a great deal of time and a whole hell of a lot of effort. I'll post the letters and PDF later after I change them to an up-loadable format later today.

            Bottom line is that Kahr needs to fix these issues and start monitoring their quality control people a whole hell of a lot better.

            As much as I like the design of the Kahrs I was very close to throwing in the towel on my T9 and MK projects.

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