CW45 returned today. 1 week turnaround!

[edinero]

LMAO, I have way to much time on my hand here at work ( Customs ) I can play with my service pistol but its nothing like my lost love my CW 45. Thanks for the advice and calming me down but I just Love my New Kahr and was so heartbroken when it did not work I am down here in Miami, FL Which there is NO Snow lol

[Bawanna]

LMAO, I have way to much time on my hand here at work ( Customs ) I can play with my service pistol but its nothing like my lost love my CW 45. Thanks for the advice and calming me down but I just Love my New Kahr and was so heartbroken when it did not work I am down here in Miami, FL Which there is NO Snow lol

Probably not many evergreen trees either. Not a convenient thing in the tree department either.

Do do you get to drive around in one of them cigarette boats with 4 engines and go like wicked fast and catch contrabanders? Or you stuck on the dock harassing tour boat travelers trying to steel the silverware off the cruise ships?

[edinero]

Lmao, neither pushing paper but hey someones gotta do it

[Bawanna]

Crap that's what I do here at the PD. That means theres at least two of us paper pushers. I really want to be a motorcycle cop but all I get is this computer. The cigarette boat would be cool too, down there that is. Not so much up here.

[jocko]

sure sure, ur just a wannabe, if you bought a motorcycle, it would probalby be one of those Harley ice cream trikes, with lolipops on it and a ding aling bell (NOT U OF COURSE). They could callu the ICE CREAM BOY!!!

[Bawanna]

sure sure, ur just a wannabe, if you bought a motorcycle, it would probalby be one of those Harley ice cream trikes, with lolipops on it and a ding aling bell (NOT U OF COURSE). They could callu the ICE CREAM BOY!!!

Thats really not a bad idea. I wouldnt need training wheels, I could toss out all the icecream and fill it with important stuff like ammunition, grenades, flashbangs, you know stuff the average meter maid needs for the commision of your normal everyday duty.
If I sold a little icecream on the side, so much the better.

[jocko]

sure, u could paint your trike TIT-Y PINK. u should have alot of that left!!

[TheTman]

Edinero, it was 7 days total. Sent it on a Monday, got it back the next Monday.
Hard to ask for better results than that.
Jocko, if we paint Bawanna's ice cream trike pink, we'd better paint some Betty Boop pictures on it too. LOL

[Bawanna]

Not a chance I'm risking a lawsuit. All that pink I'm saving for Jocko grips. Nothing else, no exceptions.

[edinero]

Thanks for the info Very much! I will advise status when I get my baby back and after range testing.

[Paladin]

Thetmanski,

I read your comments with interest regarding how the reliability of your gun changed depending on your grip. I think this is something that a lot of people overlook. When a gun malfunctions, its so easy to blame it on the gun. Just recently I was at the range and the guy in the next booth was having endless problems with his pistol. Failure after failure. After watching him for a bit, the range officer said "Can I try it?" He picked up the gun and emptied the magazine without a single failure. He handed the gun back to the guy, who immediately started getting failures again. The range officer then asked if he could give the guy some pointers. The guy agreed. After a few minutes of tutoring, the guy was shooting his gun flawlessly.

Not saying that there aren't bad guns. Not saying that gun companies don't make lemons. The Ruger SR9 is known as a good, solid, reliable gun. Yet I had one that was a nightmare. It was a jam-o-matic. It happens. But there are a lot of factors that can affect reliability besides just the gun itself. And small, light weight guns are more sensitive to how they are gripped and fired than larger, heavier guns.

It's funny, but I know a guy who simply can't shoot an LCP. Any LCP. Mine is 100% reliable. Hand it to him and it fails repeatedly. Just something about the way he shoots it. Never have figured out why. He just can't shoot an LCP.

[TheTman]

I think for one thing, people don't want to admit to "limp wristing" it kind of sounds gay or weak, or whatever, it doesn't sound good when someone tells you that you are limp wristing. I shot a 1911 for several years in target shooting competitions, and never had a problem, also my Baretta .40 Cougar never has had a failure of any kind. So after all these years I get this polymer framed gun, and am having all kinds of problems with it, and let a couple others fire it, and they each emptied a magazine with no failures, so I talk to the range officer, and he tells me about limp wristing and how it really messes you up on poly framed guns, I'd actually not heard of it before, or else not paid any attention since I wasn't having problems. The RO told me that the little poly framed guns flex a lot more than metal framed guns and any limp wristing will show up pretty soon. I changed my grip to put my wrist inline with my shooting hand, and as long as I use that grip, both my CW's perform flawlessly. Now and then I slip back into my old grip and get a jam, and look at how I'm holding the gun, and sure enough I'm back in my old grip. Takes awhile to unlearn 40 years of a bad habit. Sometimes just to make sure I'm gripping correctly, I cup my support hand under the butt of the gun, and then wrap 2 or 3 fingers up around my wrist to make sure it's in the proper position. Wish they made a brace that would keep your hand inline with your wrist that you could shoot with. Maybe they do. Have to start looking around.
A brace would be nice to help keep things in line and reduce the pressure on my wrist when shooting more than a couple hundred large caliber rounds. I can sure tell it the next day. Arthritis really kicks in after a long session at the range.

Of course people want to blame the gun and not their shooting technique, no one wants to be told they are doing something wrong, but just get over it and do what the RO or instructor says to do. I didn't get upset and say I've been shooting x number of years and never had this problem before, I opened my mind and ears and listened to what I was being told. The RO said what I went through was pretty common for people with their first polymer frame guns. I'm wonder if people have as much trouble with Glocks, maybe they don't flex as much, can't say for sure. I'd like to compare my CW's, to some other polymer framed guns from other companies and see how they compare when limp wristing.
I'll have to look and see what guns they rent next time I'm at the range.

[Bawanna]

Glock isn't a great comparison as they are sloppy and loose but run. I did however have an officer that got jams with his ever single magazine. I tore it down completely, found no issues at all. He tried again, jams every mag but nobody thought to let another officer try it.
I took it to the range and myself and 5 other officers shot it relentlessly, I limped it, I shot it upside down, I held it so loosely I nearly dropped it after every shot. None of the other 5 had a single malfunction.
We probably put 250 rounds thru it in half an hour.

Gave it back to the officer it jammed every mag.

Watched him shoot, moved his strong hand thumb about a 1/16th of an inch and it runs fine.

Had a big discussion on that, instructor wanted me to replace all parts in the gun even after 5 guys had no issues. I told him to replace his shooter or train him. How do I know what I fixed if I replace everything. Not smart.

[jocko]

your all dead right, but when u tell a fella he might be limping agun, he wants to fight and say, heh a-hole I have been shooting for 20 years, I know all about guns, I cannot be me, so one has to tread lightly with a person when HE EVEN SUGGESTS IT. Bawanna proved a super point about the cop who couldn't make a glock work but 5 others could. I always recommend another person to shoot your gun if it is giving issue,s if he can duplicate, then assume it is gun related . Kahr can't fix, glock can't fix, smith can't fix THE SHOOTER. I have tried every way possable to limp my guns but when we think we are iniating a limp hold it doesn't do it. That tells me a shooter is doing something right yet but just doesnt know it. A death grip will not end limping but it damn sure is a good start, for your entire arm/wrist are woking with that tight grip.

Hopefully people on this foruj whgen they come with an issue will accept THE POSSABILITY of shooter error. Eliminatew that part first .

[pappy42]

Thats really not a bad idea. I wouldnt need training wheels, I could toss out all the icecream and fill it with important stuff like ammunition, grenades, flashbangs, you know stuff the average meter maid needs for the commision of your normal everyday duty.
If I sold a little icecream on the side, so much the better.

You could use the ice cream to lure the bad guys into into the beaten zone.