CW45 All Better Now...

[FHBrumb]

I bought the CW45, looking for a smaller poly 45 than my XD. Im at about 350 rounds, and I can't get a good feed with JHPs. I have tried Remington green box, WWB, and PDX-1. None feed well. It's good with ball, but 3 for 3 FAIL on JHPs. Not cool.

What 230gr JHPs do you have good results from?

[TheTman]

I've not had any failures with the PDX-1. So not sure what would work. I've heard Golden Sabers will feed well in a gun that has problems with other hollow points, but I have no experience to back that story up. Mine has ate everything I've fed to it.
Maybe you would have better luck with that Cor-Bon Pow'r Ball.
If you can start documenting the failures, which mag, which round in the mag, etc., perhaps the guys can give you some help determining what the problem is.

[jocko]

we probalby need to know more than " not get a good feed", that is not telling us what it is doing etc,some here might be able to help but we all need to know more. That cw45 should feed all ammo, they are not ammo sensitive.

[FHBrumb]

I end up with the JHP jammed up against the roof of the chamber at a very steep angle. The rim is not up to, or in, the extractor groove.

The ramp and chamber have been polished. The breech face has been polished. The moving parts of the extractor assembly have been polished. Ball feeds 100%. JHPs not so much.

My XD loves all ammo, but not my CW.

[RogerP9fan]

Thanks for sharing your experience here and hope you get it resolved. I like Speer Gold Dot and hope my CW45 has an appetite once I get 'er running right.

[CJB]

One thing I've noticed, is my PM45 does not like LONG rounds. That is, some 1911 shooters like long seated rounds to help feeding. My PM45 works great with short rounds that would not feed in any 1911 I've got, but cartridges that nearly "maxed out" the magazine tended to cause problems. I don't count that as a fault, but just saying, ammo does vary, and the rounds I had were intentionally loaded long. It was a trial on my part.

[FHBrumb]

The PDX is like 1/10 inch shorter than ball, and has a nice rounded nose. No clue why it won't feed. I wish it would, as it is available easily locally, and relatively affordable. Also, I already own quite a bit of it...

Any thoughts on how to get it feeding?

[WMD]

That CW should feed most any 45 ammo. Notice I underlined "most". You should give Kahr a call and have them check it out for you. Probably not a big deal to resolve. Do not waste any more money on ammo, let Kahr have a go at it. They will get it going for you. As an aside, I have found Golden Saber feeds in any 45 I have ever shot. Although, there are other real good HP's out there GS is my personal favorite.

Just my 2 cents!

[FHBrumb]

Well, I guess I can't help bit wonder how many Kahr pistols go back to the factory, just to get them to function correctly.

The second thought I have is maybe it just needs more run time... It is quite possible that I have a little over zealous recoil spring. Maybe what is happening is that the slide short cycles (probably helped along by bad wrists), and friction between the slide and side of the case starts it forward. Maybe the slide never fully opens... Dunno... Maybe...

[gb6491]

Well, I guess I can't help bit wonder how many Kahr pistols go back to the factory, just to get them to function correctly.

The second thought I have is maybe it just needs more run time... It is quite possible that I have a little over zealous recoil spring. Maybe what is happening is that the slide short cycles (probably helped along by bad wrists), and friction between the slide and side of the case starts it forward. Maybe the slide never fully opens... Dunno... Maybe...

I was going to suggest removing the extractor and seeing if the hollow points would hand feed, but after reading the above, I wonder if you might be on to something with the highlighted piece of information. I've experienced stoppages that I know I caused by how I was manipulating the firearm. In the majority of the cases, the failure was a nose up failure to feed.
Regards,
Greg

[FHBrumb]

I cannot MAKE it fail with hand feeding. I might order another spring and see what happens. The CW takes a lot more effort to cycle than my XD does.

[gb6491]

I cannot MAKE it fail with hand feeding. I might order another spring and see what happens. The CW takes a lot more effort to cycle than my XD does.

Shoot hoss, vice ordering it and as you have problems, give Kahr a call. Tell them the thing only feeds part of the time and ask for a replacement spring (possibly an extractor as well).
Good luck with your pistol,
Greg

FWIW, Don't know what you are using, but I've always had better results with grease vice oil on slide rails.

[FHBrumb]

I think I learned that my hypothesis is good. I pulled the slide back over a loaded mag, just to the point where the part of the slide that touches the rounds was over the groove in front of the rim. As soon as I released the slide, I perfectly duplicated the ftf I saw at the range. I did it over and over, each time with the same result. I think the recoil spring is a bit strong. I'll put a few more boxes through it, and see what happens.

I think the extractor is fine.

[FHBrumb]

I found a post in Kahr Tech, and read it. I found a part about a bevel on the bottom of the pick up rail. Mine had ZERO. I added a hint of bevel. I also put a bevel on the front of my recoil spring guide rod and buffed it well. I also buffed out the bottom of the pick up rail again. The thought was to get the slide velocity up. Also, adding the bevel might help avoid the angle at the end of my pick up rail from grabbing just in front of the rim.

[FHBrumb]

New recoil spring looks and feels 100% the same. Except for the wear on the old one, there is no perceivable difference.