Well my CW40 is going back today

[slowpoke]

Perhaps this chart will be of some use.

[MW surveyor]

So a few things to get straight or not.

You bought the CW40 without even finding this forum first so that you could review potential problems.

You fired the gun without proper lube.

The gun did not work as you expected.

Went on another forum bashing the gun and people there directed you here, where you learned how really really bad the gun was. However, you neglected to tell them about your failures to clean and lube the gun properly. Complain about the number of lube points, etc.

The you post this on the same forum where you first reported your problem

"So the walther PPS is smaller then a S&W M&P ? So when my Dog ----- CW 40 gets back where can I sell it ? Who'd want to buy it ? I guess trade it in for a PPS ?"

My advice, get rid of the gun because you will never be happy with it even if it runs properly when you get it back.

Sorry, just that it really bugs me when everything is a POS right off the bat. Sometimes you're right. Have fun with the PPS and hope that it works out for you.

BTW - I only own one Kahr, a CW 9 that has been flawless from the first with 1,750 rounds through it so far. Have a whole bunch of other brands.

[jocko]

In ur

:4:

When it gets back I'm either selling it or it will be a trade in for a Walther PPS ? You tube has many vidieo of failed Kahrs.

case probably the best thing for u to do. Kahrs are a man's gun:4:

[Iron Worker]

Mans gun

Oh so its a man's gun. No where in instruction manual for my Sig did it say I had to fire it 200rnds to be dependable. Neither did my M1 grarand,FN Fal,AR-15,M1A, Colt 1911, Berreta 84,Mini 14,Rem 1100. Ok WD 40 wasn't the right lube but it wasn't salt water either Didn't hurt any of these other guns a bit. Why is this $419.00 gun so lube sensitive ? IMHO its cause there is a design flaw. I've read reports of guys sending their Kahrs back to factory multiple times and still not functioning. Yes a few guns came back fixed but they seem to be in the minority.

[jlottmc]

Litrahot= see ya later. We get that kind around once in awhile, they show their ass, and usually move on. MW Surv. I did not know about the other stuff from elsewhere, but now that I do will add don't feed the trolls, and that is all that's going on here. Truth be told he probably works for Glock, or is so in love with them, that all else is crap. At least in that mind. I've said my piece and if it sounds like fanboy, you might want to know that it's not. I just little tolerance for people coming here (or anywhere else for that matter) and bashing something that works for me just because they know not better. Again, I wish you well in your endeavors, just don't include me.

[slowpoke]

I guess that because I can't ride a unicycle, that there all broke.

[Bawanna]

Walk softly gentlemen. Drop the flamethrowers. We're here to help when we can.

Iron Worker needs a little help. Thats ok, we all need help now and then.

I'm hoping Kahr sends that puppy back running like a champ and he'll come back and change his tune. If not it's still his call to make with no direction or GPS coordinates needed from us.

Happy thoughts.............

[Iron Worker]

Thanks

Hey I hope for the best. Hey I know that there are many happy Kahr owners out there. I hope to be one of them. Also I now see the wisdom of leaving the WD 40 alone.

[Bawanna]

Hey I hope for the best. Hey I know that there are many happy Kahr owners out there. I hope to be one of them. Also I now see the wisdom of leaving the WD 40 alone.

See your making progress already. I use WD40 for squeaky door hinges, cleaning road tar off my car or when necessary as a flame thrower.

We have a local agency where if an officer is found putting WD40 on their gun it's automatic suspension. Leave the WD 40 alone is a good idea.

Keep an open mind, give it a chance, it's worth tinkering with to get right.

Also to address an earlier post, Kahr is honest about their break in. They tell you that up front in the manual. It may not need 200 rounds, most probably don't but usually problems work themselves out in that range. Other manufacturers need break in also, they don't come out and say it but they need it, some more than others.

Beyond that attaining faith in your carry gun is whatever you personally require. I need 500 trouble free rounds before I'm totally confident. I guess you could call that my personal break in period. I've lowered that standard some due to ammo and time restraint but it's still way more than 200.

[jocko]

gee

Hey I hope for the best. Hey I know that there are many happy Kahr owners out there. I hope to be one of them. Also I now see the wisdom of leaving the WD 40 alone.

BIG CHANGE in ur thread from earlier on. truthfully, kahrs are not for every one, I could really give a damn what sig or others put in their owner manuals. Kahr IMO is just basicaly being up front with people. Anyone who buys a gun and doesn't give it some rounds down range before "trusting it' is IMO STUPID. call them break in or what every you want but u buy a gun take it out of the box and stick it in ur pocket and call it good to go again is STUPID. If u shoot any gun and can say after 200 rounds that the gun is not smoother in operation kand feel, then u truly hve bought a wonderful gun. Keep looking u might just find one to.

You best peddle it and move on to a gun you can trust.no insult to that, no embarrassement IMO. U ain't gonna like your kahr when it comes back,ur gonna criticise it with every little thing that might go wrong with it. Life is to short, to live with frustrations.

[MW surveyor]

OK, I'm all better now.

Breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out. Tai Chi then went out and shot my CW9.

Have that warm Zen feeling all over.

[jlottmc]

I'll keep the pilot light lit. All I say is let Kahr have a chance to make it right. You do know that the WD in that chemical stands for water displacer, right. It also has a tendency not to lubricate, and leaves a sticky film behind when it dries. Just sayin'.

[Bawanna]

I remember when I used to have a pilot light. More like a candle wick these days.

Back in an earlier life when I cared about such things, I inquired of a testing company, kind of like Pittsburg Testing. I worked at an industrial supply place in the warehouse so had some contacts. I wanted to know the characteristics and properties (damn this is technical talk for ole bawanna) of WD 40, LPS, and some others I've forgotten.

They had already tested and had data on several. I wasn't surprised to find out that WD actually turned into an adhesive after enough time passed.

It has a purpose and it works good for that (water displacing, the key word here) but it has no place on a gun that I can think of.

One excellent purpose I found a few years ago was to take a piece of plywood and build a little jump for your kids remote control car/truck. The better the quality of the car/truck and suspension the better.
Spray the ramp liberally (gosh I hate that word) with WD. Now you can do burnouts and slip and slide.
When that gets boring hose it down again with the WD and light it on far, careful of the eyebrows and arm hair (yes they are flammable, ask me how I know this?). Now you can drive the remote control car/truck thru the flamming inferno with wicked cool results. No remote car/trucks were injured in the performance of this test.

Hmm, just had an idea. A plywood ramp covered in icecream............this warrants further consideration.

[slowpoke]

I remember when I used to have a pilot light. More like a candle wick these days.

Back in an earlier life when I cared about such things, I inquired of a testing company, kind of like Pittsburg Testing. I worked at an industrial supply place in the warehouse so had some contacts. I wanted to know the characteristics and properties (damn this is technical talk for ole bawanna) of WD 40, LPS, and some others I've forgotten.

They had already tested and had data on several. I wasn't surprised to find out that WD actually turned into an adhesive after enough time passed.

It has a purpose and it works good for that (water displacing, the key word here) but it has no place on a gun that I can think of.

One excellent purpose I found a few years ago was to take a piece of plywood and build a little jump for your kids remote control car/truck. The better the quality of the car/truck and suspension the better.
Spray the ramp liberally (gosh I hate that word) with WD. Now you can do burnouts and slip and slide.
When that gets boring hose it down again with the WD and light it on far, careful of the eyebrows and arm hair (yes they are flammable, ask me how I know this?). Now you can drive the remote control car/truck thru the flamming inferno with wicked cool results. No remote car/trucks were injured in the performance of this test.

Hmm, just had an idea. A plywood ramp covered in ice cream............this warrants further consideration.

Sprinkled with chocolate, then it's a chick magnet.

[Bawanna]

Now that's what I'm talking about. Good idear.