New PM9 slide is sticking

[sarah000]

Hello- I recently bought a PM9 and took it to the range for the first time today. The first 2 clips (13 rounds) were fine. After reloading it started to jam. The slide was catching and not moving fully forward. Tried multiple times and the same thing happened, pulling it back by hand and also using the slide release. At home, took it apart and cleaned and lubed it up. Anyone have any advice? I know it's said to do at least 200 rounds to break it in. My fingers are chewed up from pulling back the slide so many times to hopefully break it in.



Update- had to send it in to the shop but it's working great now! I sure did miss it!

[CJB]

The slide was catching and not moving fully forward.

Welcome!~

Do you mean.... that the slide was locking ALL the way back, with the slide stop, or

Do you mean.... that the slide was locking part way though its cycle, or perhaps nearly all the way forward, but not quite so.

I'm guessing the first scenario... in which case you may be inadvertently and unknowingly manipulating the slide stop lever.

I'm saying this next bit generally, not aimed directly at you, but... female hands many times have problems with small autoloaders, due to the strength muscle tone being (many times) quite different from male hands. There is (many times) not as much muscle mass. The small autoloaders need to be held firmly, which some men have no thought about, some men have to remember, and some ladies must concentrate on, until it becomes second nature. Its a matter of nature, or Design, not one of personal appraisal, that male and female pistol holds are often quite dissimilar.

[sarah000]

Thanks for the info, I'll definitely check that out.
A little more about me-
This is the first gun that is exclusively "mine". I'm 26 so I'm still relatively young. My "first" gun was a .38 special revolver that my dad purchased at a gun show with the excuse that it was for me (I was maybe 10 years old..) Needless to say I've grown up around guns. (My parents have a gun safe in the living room next to the piano.. lol) Both of my parents and I got our CHL's this last year together, I'm very happy I did. So forgive me if my gun jargon isn't quite right yet. I have to wear gloves when I shoot to pull the slide back, but this won't be a problem if I am carrying (I'll already have one in the chamber). We currently live about 45 minutes south of houston but will be moving closer to town in less than a month. Better safe than sorry!
Sarah

[CJB]

So I was correct? The slide is locking back?

Thumb hitting the slide stop, and possibly the slide stop spring not quite right.

You may want to have an experienced shooter take some shots and see how they do.

I'm thinking of many students, who upon first shots had the "death grip" but relaxed more as shots progressed, only to relax too much and create their own set of alternate problems. Just sayin...

[sarah000]

Welcome!~

Do you mean.... that the slide was locking ALL the way back, with the slide stop, or

Do you mean.... that the slide was locking part way though its cycle, or perhaps nearly all the way forward, but not quite so.

I'm guessing the first scenario... in which case you may be inadvertently and unknowingly manipulating the slide stop lever.

I'm saying this next bit generally, not aimed directly at you, but... female hands many times have problems with small autoloaders, due to the strength muscle tone being (many times) quite different from male hands. There is (many times) not as much muscle mass. The small autoloaders need to be held firmly, which some men have no thought about, some men have to remember, and some ladies must concentrate on, until it becomes second nature. Its a matter of nature, or Design, not one of personal appraisal, that male and female pistol holds are often quite dissimilar.

The slide was not moving forward completely- so second scenario. It is hard for me to pull it back all the way, I've never claimed to be equal to a man. I have to wear gloves to pull it back all the way. When the slide was locked back after emptying a clip and then after inserting another and flipping the slide release, it still did the same thing. It seems to be better after cleaning and lubing it up. But I guess I'll have to see once I'm actually shooting it.

[CJB]

Didn't mean you were equal to men, or claimed to be...!~ Damn good thing y'all aren't too!

Ok, second scenario. Not the thumb. Not the spring. Could be just needs breakin' in. Could be your grip - if - its not picking up a new round from the magazine, it would be a strong contender for the problem's cause.

I'll stick with - let an experienced shooter try it out, and if it runs ok for them, continue on with your break-in schedule, paying attention to prep and lube.

[sarah000]

Didn't mean you were equal to men, or claimed to be...!~ Damn good thing y'all aren't too!

Ok, second scenario. Not the thumb. Not the spring. Could be just needs breakin' in. Could be your grip - if - its not picking up a new round from the magazine, it would be a strong contender for the problem's cause.

I'll stick with - let an experienced shooter try it out, and if it runs ok for them, continue on with your break-in schedule, paying attention to prep and lube.

My dad also tried a few times and the same thing happened, I'd consider him an experienced shooter.

[CJB]

In that case... continue the break in anyway, prep, lube... possibly try other ammo (good quality factory stuff) and if problems persists, then you might want to go to Kahr with it.

What ammo you using?

[rjt123]

We currently live about 45 minutes south of houston but will be moving closer to town in less than a month.

Angleton, Lake Jackson, or somewhere around there? We moved from the Brazosport area to Corpus Christi a few years ago.

[sarah000]

In that case... continue the break in anyway, prep, lube... possibly try other ammo (good quality factory stuff) and if problems persists, then you might want to go to Kahr with it.

What ammo you using?

9mm Luger Union Metallic Cartridge Company

[sarah000]

Angleton, Lake Jackson, or somewhere around there? We moved from the Brazosport area to Corpus Christi a few years ago.

We currently live in Lake Jackson. I was born and raised here. We will be moving to just outside of Pearland (considered Manvel- right off of 288 but not quite to 518)

[CJB]

9mm Luger Union Metallic Cartridge Company

I'd say should be ok with that, roughly the same as the venerable WWB stuff. Keep shootin' it! Get those 200 rounds in, and see how it does during the process.

Should your new pistol need some tweakage... Kahr does it with no fuss, with short times, and (usually) no shipping cash outlay for the customer. They're good.

[sarah000]

I'd say should be ok with that, roughly the same as the venerable WWB stuff. Keep shootin' it! Get those 200 rounds in, and see how it does during the process.

Should your new pistol need some tweakage... Kahr does it with no fuss, with short times, and (usually) no shipping cash outlay for the customer. They're good.

Ok thanks-
hopefully I'll get back out to the range this week.

[jocko]

seethe kahr tech section ahd hit on two good sticky's that should be of greathelp

#1kahr lube chart

#2propper prepping of urnew kahr.


ake very sure the outter recoil spring is on correctly, open end towards the front of the slide. sounds tome mayb elike the gun has not been taken down even to lube and check to see if all things are OK. assume nothing when buying a new gun. I think like ost here that the gun needs more rounds down range to but getit prepped and lubedberfore wasting any more ammo. andin ur case use the slide lock releaseto load that first round EVERY TIME as ur gonna have issues trying to hand rack that little gun..

[TriggerMan]

Sounds like the classic failure to return to battery (FTRB) so common with any new semi automatic pistol during break in, especially if it needs a little extra lubrication at first or has any debris from manufacturing or storage before sale. But . . . I have been wrong before . . . probably earlier today. Just ask my wife.

Are you serious? I bought nine new semi autos in the past twelve months, plus 4 lightly used guns, and have NEVER experienced a FTRB. Shoot twice per week every week, too!