Should I ...Or Shouldn't I ???

[Rolgon]

Ok guys, I am considering buying a PM9 in the all black configuration. I think its the perfect size and caliber for a CCW, however I am very much dissappointed and concerned about all the problems that most everyone seems to be experiencing with theirs on this and other forums. I own many weapons from a .22 thru a .50 BMG and always try to buy stuff that is reasonably priced for what it is yet has to be reliable and functional.Lets face it in a crisis situation the last thing you need is a FTF...I have also read a lot of negatives on the Ruger LC9. I am sure not everyone has had a bad experience with their PM9 and I would like to get some solid advice from everyone that is willing to share their opinions with me.Is it just a total waste of money or are there just a few bad apples that slip thru the production line? Is it worth buying knowing that it will be sent back to the factory several times til they get it right? Please share with me your honest opinions and personal experiences so I can make a informed decision. Thanks Rolgon

[Bawanna]

Remember forums seem to dwell on the negative.

Buy with confidence. If and it's highly unlikely you have issues Kahr will take care of it. Some but not nearly all have a few issues going in and Kahr will tell you they need the break in rounds. Nothing unusual there at all.

It should work out of the box, do the proper prep in the tech section and you'll have an even better chance of 100% success.

No gamble involved.

[Rolgon]

Thanks for the prompt feedback Bawanna.

[joshh]

Thanks for the prompt feedback Bawanna.

get used to that around here. bawanna is quick.

keep in mind people are more likely to post problems with things to try and find help or just to b!tch.
i have had ZERO issues with my PM9 (k.o.w) and carry it every day!
it may few "break in" rounds (my friends did) but these pm9's are sweet pistols and hold up well. i pocket mine at least 6 days/week and have had it on jobsites and it still looks like new. i also try and shoot it at least every month to stay proficient. try some different ammo til you find one that you are comfortable carrying and blast away. i shoot walmart federals at the club and carry winchester pdx147gr and never have had an issue. the pm9 well worth the $ for me...
good luck

[center_mass]

I'm a brand new cm9 owner, and I spent countless days, weeks, months doing my research. All I can say is the hard work paid off. I am completely satisfied with my choice. Actually thinking about getting the cw9, too.

Good luck!

[Big_John_1961]

Wow, mine has been perfect. Great shooter and accurate as well. Very easy to control. I love mine and would trust my life to it, no question.

[Ikeo74]

PM9/CM9 = the same gun except for cosmetics. I have a CM9 with zero issues. It is my daily carry gun and I trust my life on it. The issure you are seeing are a very small percentage of the PM9/CM9s sold by Kahr. I bet 95% or more sold are never returned for service. Mine hasn't and I doubt it will ever need to be factory serviced. Buy with confidence.

[SpyderTattoo]

It isn't exactly the same gun. Besides having a few stamped parts, the CM9 barrel is a regular rifled barrel. The PM9 barrel has polygonal rifling like Glock's have.

[Bawanna]

It isn't exactly the same gun. Besides having a few stamped parts, the CM9 barrel is a regular rifled barrel. The PM9 barrel has polygonal rifling like Glock's have.

True. The CM comes with 1 mag, the PM with 2. The front sight is dovetailed on the PM, not on the CM so a few less options for front sights.
CM not available in black if that's what blows up ones dress.

To some the regular rifling is a bonus if they want to shoot lead.

Cosmetically not as refined but in a side by side shoot I bet they act very much the same. The controls and everything in the launch system is the same.

[Dirt doc]

I can't speak to the LC9 or other PM9's but when I got mine I cleaned it took it to the range and put the first 6 rnds all on a 2" sticky dot. Had a P9 before the PM9 and both have been reliable. The PM9 100% since rnd 1 and the P9 100% after 2nd mag. I'll be picking up a new PM45 tonight or tomorrow. I wouldn't be doing that if I had any doubts about quality.

[Bawanna]

I can't speak to the LC9 or other PM9's but when I got mine I cleaned it took it to the range and put the first 6 rnds all on a 2" sticky dot. Had a P9 before the PM9 and both have been reliable. The PM9 100% since rnd 1 and the P9 100% after 2nd mag. I'll be picking up a new PM45 tonight or tomorrow. I wouldn't be doing that if I had any doubts about quality.

Welcome to the PM45 club. Your gonna love it. It don't get much better.

Pictures and report of course after you get it????

[DKD]

Pm9& pm45

Ihave had my PM9 for a few years now and haven' thad a single isue ith it yet. It gobbles up all types of ammo to boot.
I also have a PM45 which until I had a hundred or so rounds through it gave me only a few FTF which only a bump to the slide cured. I had a few few rounds hang up on the ramp, but stopped after a good cleaning & lubing. It also used to dot my forehead with the ejected cases once and a while during the brteak in period, but that claered up well before 150 rounds went down range. I love both of these guns...I am rarely without one of them on a daily basis along with a spare magazine or two.

[wlc]

Most people who are happy with a product just use it. Those who have problems want to share them. The problems that you read about are small compared to the number of Kahrs sold. I have two and they both work well. Kahr has a great design and uses good materials. Their quality control is not as good as it should be though. Some of the problems are from interference fits that go away with use. These problems could be greatly reduced with better QC. Like many products, the first one produced are more likely to have problems. I think Kahr has been good at fixing the bugs on early production runs and eliminating them on later products. They are not perfect, but I really like mine.

[Bill K]

I had two issues with my PM9 that were easily resolved with help from folks on this forum. Never had to send my Kahr back to the mother ship.

[Popeye]

OK here's my story on buying my all black PM9 with night sites. I'll keep it short, honest,and to the point. I bought it, cleaned it, shot it, and love it. It has never had one problem of any sort in 900 to a 1000 rounds shooting different types and of brass ammo ,including reloads.
It is my EDC and has been for the last two years. Be rest assured if you do have any sort of problems there are more than a few people on this site who will be more than happy to give you assistance. If that does not help with your problems then the factory is there to fix what we can't. I'd be willing to bet if you follow the tips that are on this site for prepping and breaking in your new pistol you will have little to no problems.