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  • #16
    Originally posted by lowroad View Post
    I'm going to try a Pj's, though I do think the kydex right on my skin might bug me, but maybe not. I have a supertuck knock off type holster that I trimmed down and still don't love. It's great at behind the hip carry, but I want to carry at almost 3 o'clock. I don't wear very long t shirts and get very aware that that my piece can poke out when wearing at 4 or 5 o'clock. Short of a galco in the pocket, where I'm not sure I like carrying either, I'm about out of options.
    Lowroad,
    You might look into a Sneaky Pete. It looks like a high end smartphone or camera carrier but has a magnetic clasp that lets you swipe the flap up and out of the way quick. It's right there in the open but doesn't draw anyone's attention while keeping the gun out of sight. I like the concept.

    http://sneakypeteholsters.com/prod_d...?product_id=97

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lowroad View Post
      I'm going to try a Pj's, though I do think the kydex right on my skin might bug me, but maybe not. I have a supertuck knock off type holster that I trimmed down and still don't love. It's great at behind the hip carry, but I want to carry at almost 3 o'clock. I don't wear very long t shirts and get very aware that that my piece can poke out when wearing at 4 or 5 o'clock. Short of a galco in the pocket, where I'm not sure I like carrying either, I'm about out of options.
      Lowroad, you can always glue a piece of cloth or suede to the back of it. Some people say the kydex against the skin is fine. It bothers me a little. Try it and if you need to, line the back.
      Very interesting...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JFootin View Post
        Lowroad, you can always glue a piece of cloth or suede to the back of it. Some people say the kydex against the skin is fine. It bothers me a little. Try it and if you need to, line the back.
        Yep, good old Dr. Scholl's moleskin I guess if I don't like it. Can't be any less comfortable than a giant hunk of cowhide anyway Got a tuckable on the way from Paul. What a great guy to work with. I even asked for a slightly less than 15 degree cant, something more like ten is more to my preference.

        3 o'clock is a crappy place to carry IWB, I realize that, but it's where I want it, so my only recourse is the thinnest thing I can get. The tuckable option adds a whopping .080, so I will deal with it for the added option of being able to tuck. I'm really looking for one "do it all" holster.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JFootin View Post
          That'll work! I hope Paul is reading this. Can he use this idea of yours?
          That is where he is doing it. Myabe he used to do something else...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by lowroad View Post
            Yep, good old Dr. Scholl's moleskin I guess if I don't like it. Can't be any less comfortable than a giant hunk of cowhide anyway Got a tuckable on the way from Paul. What a great guy to work with. I even asked for a slightly less than 15 degree cant, something more like ten is more to my preference.

            3 o'clock is a crappy place to carry IWB, I realize that, but it's where I want it, so my only recourse is the thinnest thing I can get. The tuckable option adds a whopping .080, so I will deal with it for the added option of being able to tuck. I'm really looking for one "do it all" holster.
            What kind of clip did you get?
            Very interesting...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JFootin View Post
              What kind of clip did you get?
              Simple over the belt hook. Ease of putting on is also important to me Fumbling around with two steel clips each tilting every which way also bugs me.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by lowroad View Post

                3 o'clock is a crappy place to carry IWB, I realize that, but it's where I want it, so my only recourse is the thinnest thing I can get. The tuckable option adds a whopping .080, so I will deal with it for the added option of being able to tuck. I'm really looking for one "do it all" holster.
                I've been carrying a 5" 1911 in both a Blackhawk Serpa and a reinforced leather IWB with inline loop at 3 o'clock for years. Serpa requries cover garment but a loose, untucked polo works for the IWB. Compared to that hiding a CM9 at 3 o'clock will be child's play... not that I would let children play with it.

                The biggest advantage to the 3 o'clock position is retention; just clamp your strong arm to your side over the gun and either hit your snatcher with pepper spray or go to work on their arm with your knife from the off-hand. 4 to 6 o'clock are much easier for someone to snatch if they managed to spot it since whatever you do to stop them puts you strait into a behind the back arm hold and they would be coming from behind. If you carry behind the 3 o'clock position it had better be very well hidden.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by lowroad View Post
                  Simple over the belt hook. Ease of putting on is also important to me Fumbling around with two steel clips each tilting every which way also bugs me.
                  The clips can be managed. Put a thick rubber washer under them and crank down on the screws to keep 'em where you like 'em. If that's not secure enough for you put a star washer on each side of the washer and it will be locked real good.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Blue150 View Post
                    The clips can be managed. Put a thick rubber washer under them and crank down on the screws to keep 'em where you like 'em. If that's not secure enough for you put a star washer on each side of the washer and it will be locked real good.
                    I know, I have leather washers under tehre, it's still just no where near as nice as one nice big old slip on clip. I completely agree about the 3 o'clock carry. There are a host of reasons I prefer it, some of which you covered. Damn hip bone just gets in the way!!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lowroad View Post
                      I know, I have leather washers under tehre, it's still just no where near as nice as one nice big old slip on clip. I completely agree about the 3 o'clock carry. There are a host of reasons I prefer it, some of which you covered. Damn hip bone just gets in the way!!
                      Just do like I did; put on forty pounds and that hipbone will be nicely padded. Now if I could just get around the hammer of my 1911 digging into my love handles.

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                      • #26
                        Kydex came in and I made a few holsters yesterday. I made a field holster for grandpa's old woodsman. I initially tried to glue leather to the inside before forming and it stuck well but the crisp edges of the trigger guard ate it up. Now I have to use mineral spirits to clean out the glue.



                        I then used the scraps to make a slide holster for the CM9. Doesn't look half bad...



                        I'm glad I used scraps for this because, though I learned a lot from online tutorials, I also learned a few lessons I haven't read anywhere else:

                        1. Trigger guard mounted LASERs need extra space in the holster so the trigger guard is not an option for retention. There is so much pressure on the LASER during the draw that it's point of aim shifts about six inches at twenty feet from draw to draw.
                        1.a. The LASER point of aim will shift during the press, adjust it before you go to the range and/or remember your tools.
                        2. Leave a bit more meat around the gun for fasteners.
                        3. The ejection port area of a tightly formed holster grabs a Kahr way harder than you can pull, this is because of the knife edge at the top of the port that digs in like an anchor. (As pictured, holster has been reformed without so much detail and has spacers inserted between shells.)
                        4. The frame of a polymer Kahr is thicker at the front than the rear. Once again, it grips way harder than I want it to.
                        5. Wrapping hot kydex around a polymer gun and putting it into a rubber press with an empty mag well can cause the grip to collapse slightly making that carefully adjusted magazine/magazine well relationship to become... clingy.
                        6. If the holster is going to come up past the ejection port, tape a thin section of Popsicle stick to the slide behind the extractor. Otherwise, when loaded, the extractor will catch on the lip and absolutely prevent the gun from entering the already too tight holster.

                        For my next try I will shim the frame behind the swell so it doesn't continue to grab after the initial release. There will be some thin shims taped to either side of the LASER and trigger guard so the LASER floats free in the holster. The top third of the ejection port will be completely filled and a disassembled magazine stuffed with shims and wrapped with tape will be installed to support the grip during the press. Retention will be provided by the slide stop on both sides of the gun and the lower portion of the ejection port.

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