Selling a gun on kahr talk

[JFootin]

Suggest you keep your word and put me on IGNORE.

For the doubters, see this letter from BATFE. The last paragraph is crystal clear.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ing_letter.jpg

Thank you

OK, good clarification. But does this apply when a person is selling a gun and sending it to the buyer's FFL? I don't see FFL included in that list. I see that it works for sending to a manufacturer or dealer - cool.

Also, doesn't the Post Office have a seperate rule?

[CootShooter]

Guys, the answers are out there and easy to find via google.

Summarized from here:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html


Q: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?
A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law.
-----[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]


Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may nottransfer (via USPS) a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. [...] Handguns are not mailable (via USPS). A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
-----[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]


Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
-----[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

[TriggerMan]

Another source

OK, good clarification. But does this apply when a person is selling a gun and sending it to the buyer's FFL? I don't see FFL included in that list. I see that it works for sending to a manufacturer or dealer - cool.

Also, doesn't the Post Office have a seperate rule?

Yes, absolutely, the Post Office has rules/federal laws

Check this out, its pretty thorough

http://www.thegunzone.com/ship-guns.html

To anyone reading, be carefull to distinguish the USPS (Postal Service) from UPS (United Parcel Service). UPS is one of two common carriers that can help non-ffls on handguns.

Also, if you don't need to send the entire gun, you can send the slide by USPS because the frame has the serial number and is the regulated part.

[dean1818]

Gunbroker is the safest method i have seen over face to face

[JFootin]

Guys, the answers are out there and easy to find via google.

Summarized from here:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html


Q: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?
A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law.
-----[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]


Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may nottransfer (via USPS) a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. [...] Handguns are not mailable (via USPS). A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
-----[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]


Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
-----[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

Thanks, CootShooter. I still think my advice is good: use your local FFL for sending guns. I also found that FFLs that are not gun shop owners, pawn shop owners or gun sellers, but who have the FFL license and use it as an extra source of income sort of like being a notary public, will charge a lot less for their service.

Someone posted recently, saying that FedEx no longer insists on next day air when you tell them you are shipping a gun. But you have to go to their local distribution center to do it. For me, that's an 80 mile round trip. My FFL is 1/4 mile from me, and with his service fee and USPS shipping charges, it is still much cheaper than the other two.