Regretting my CM9 purchase

[boatsteve]

Not real Happy with it but we will see!


I am not real happy with it sent it back to Kahr as the recoil spring would come out the hole in the front when it cycled. Jay said that the gun smith report would say what was wrong. It didn't when I got it back just said "replaced slide" OK well and good but what was wrong with it? What was machined wrong? Said test fired and they did but not much as it was not cleaned after firing. I email Jay so maybe Monday I will hear from him on what was wrong. I do notice the front sight is a little loose and can't be tighted, But three weeks at Kahr again is a pain. A drop of epoxy should fit it. Also two nicks in the new slide where the rear hatch is?

The CM9 was smaller than the Ruger LC9 so I bought the Kahr, the Nano just can out maybe those are better? I will get the Kahr to the range again and see what happens. If it still has issues it will continue to go back until they get it right or get tire of me and offer a buy back on it.

[Sparx]

this will tell you if the barrel is sticking. Mine did this, sent back to kahr, they ground down the barrel, no more sticking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6Gxg14SGA

Are all the guns like this as demonstrated in the video?

How is this problem corrected?
sparx

[jocko]

best thing one can do is clean the gun. lube it according to the kahr lube chart, read the propper prepping thread and see if there is anything in there that might be worth checking out and THEN GO OUT AND SHOOT IT. Becuase maybe u can do something while sitting at home does not mean the gun will react that way when firing it and no doubt rounds down range takes care of alot of start of things.

[Sparx]

I don't have the problem, was just curious on how to solve it.
Try to stay one step ahead.

[bandrich]

I had the same problems first trip to the range. After ALL the cleaning and racking and other BS I had the slide stick back 4 of 6 rounds on all 225 fired. American Eagle, WWB and Hornady CD. Sent it back to Kahr on there nickel over night. Just got it back after three weeks and two days. The work order indicates that they "reworked the barrel and recoil spring". I can't see anything different but went to the range today and the CM worked perfectly on 100 rounds of WWB from Wally World. I love the gun, the feel, trigger pull and how accurate it is for me. It is my EDC now.

[Sparx]

When I lube up my cm9, I put tetra gun grease around the barrel, and on the slide rails.
Maybe this is why I never had the issue.
Is 500 rounds really what is needed to break these in?
sparx

[sharpenit]

Thanks to everybody for the suggestions and the encouragement. I will try your suggestions. I really want this to work, because I know others have great success with the PM9 and CM9. And it's a beautiful little machine.

Some wondered if I'm new to shooting, and I am. I got this CM9 just 10 days ago and a Springfield XD .45 about a month ago. The Springfield was so easy right out of the box that I was just flummoxed when the Kahr turned out to be so different.

I hope to get to the range this weekend to try out your suggestions. I'll report back afterward.

I got to the range on Sunday and again on Tuesday. On Sunday, with the slide-stop spring adjusted as per the photo in the manual, I had no more problems with the slide locking back when there were still rounds in the magazine. The pistol fired off the entire magazine as it should, firing 100 rounds using two magazines. Great. That relieves my worries about the reliability of the pistol if I'm ever in a situation where I need it to fire. But sometimes, after firing the last round in the magazine, the slide did not lock back.

Yesterday, with the gun cleaned and lubed, I returned to the range and put another 100 rounds through it. Again, the pistol cycled through each magazine without a problem, though I still had the problem with the slide failing to lock back after firing the last round in the magazine, only it occurred less frequently.

Any ideas on what is going on with that?

Overall, I'm feeling much better about this purchase. I appreciate all of the advice and encouragement you folks gave me when I was feeling like I'd paid big bucks for a lemon.

I also signed up yesterday for a CHL certification class in April. Hope to have my permit by May.

[muggsy]

Well, I got the Kahr because of the smooth, light trigger and no manual safeties or a hammer, just a pull of the trigger to get it into action. I can shoot this little gun pretty well, even with the snappy +p defense ammo. I have weakened, partially paralyzed hands, with my right hand being much worse than my left hand (but I'm a lefty ), so I have to put my gun in my right hand and rackit with my left hand, but I do it just fine and can clear a misfeed. I'm not lightening fast at it, but it is what it is. I'm not fast at doing anything...

Here comes Uncle Joe, he's a movin' kinda slow at the junction...

Like Jocko, I don't carry a spare mag much of the time, so my slowness at changing mags isn't going to come into play in a s.h.t.f. situation, and if 7 rounds shooting reliably out of my CM9 isn't enough, see ya on the other side! or I hope

I'm not really fast, but I'm far from slow. Kinda half fast, if you know what I mean.

[muggsy]

I got to the range on Sunday and again on Tuesday. On Sunday, with the slide-stop spring adjusted as per the photo in the manual, I had no more problems with the slide locking back when there were still rounds in the magazine. The pistol fired off the entire magazine as it should, firing 100 rounds using two magazines. Great. That relieves my worries about the reliability of the pistol if I'm ever in a situation where I need it to fire. But sometimes, after firing the last round in the magazine, the slide did not lock back.

Yesterday, with the gun cleaned and lubed, I returned to the range and put another 100 rounds through it. Again, the pistol cycled through each magazine without a problem, though I still had the problem with the slide failing to lock back after firing the last round in the magazine, only it occurred less frequently.

Any ideas on what is going on with that?

Overall, I'm feeling much better about this purchase. I appreciate all of the advice and encouragement you folks gave me when I was feeling like I'd paid big bucks for a lemon.

I also signed up yesterday for a CHL certification class in April. Hope to have my permit by May.

You may need to loosen the screw that holds the slide stop spring in place and adjust the position of the spring for more spring tension. Becareful when you tighten the screw because it's threaded into polymer, not steel. Snug is good, too snug is stripped. If you were born with ten thumbs like Bawanna, you might want to send the pistol back to Kahr for a new spring and proper adjustment.

[JFootin]

You may need to loosen the screw that holds the slide stop spring in place and adjust the position of the spring for more spring tension. Becareful when you tighten the screw because it's threaded into polymer, not steel. Snug is good, too snug is stripped. If you were born with ten thumbs like Bawanna, you might want to send the pistol back to Kahr for a new spring and proper adjustment.

Muggsy, wouldn't he need a little LESS tension on that spring, seeing as how the slide stop doesn't want to move up after last round?

Sharpenit, it may solve itself with more use. Does it lock when you hand rackit with an empty mag in the gun?

[sharpenit]

Sharpenit, it may solve itself with more use. Does it lock when you hand rackit with an empty mag in the gun?

Jfootin:

I'm glad you asked that. I have two mags and when I tried your experiment, I found that with one of the mags, the slide locks back as expected. But with the other mag, it doesn't. This suggests a problem with the second mag, no?

[JFootin]

Jfootin:

I'm glad you asked that. I have two mags and when I tried your experiment, I found that with one of the mags, the slide locks back as expected. But with the other mag, it doesn't. This suggests a problem with the second mag, no?

Maybe, maybe not. It still could be a problem with the slide stop spring being out of position or bent, and one mag spring being weaker than the other. Does it only fail to lock back when firing with that one mag? I'll bet Kahr will replace that mag if asked.

[yqtszhj]

Thanks to everybody for the suggestions and the encouragement. I will try your suggestions. I really want this to work, because I know others have great success with the PM9 and CM9. And it's a beautiful little machine.

Some wondered if I'm new to shooting, and I am. I got this CM9 just 10 days ago and a Springfield XD .45 about a month ago. The Springfield was so easy right out of the box that I was just flummoxed when the Kahr turned out to be so different.

I hope to get to the range this weekend to try out your suggestions. I'll report back afterward.

Welcome. That CM9 will smooth out with a few hundred rounds but the spring will still be tight but that's how they made it. If it turns out that your thumb is not hitting the slide stop, it maybe could be the rounds bumping up against the do-hickie and engaging the slide stop. I think you can remove the slide and insert an empty mag into the frame and see where the follower hits the slide stop pushing it up. Then stick one round in the mag and do the same thing (with no slide, safety first) to see if maybe the round is hitting the same thing. Just a thought. If a round hitting you can call Kahr about a new slide stop or others here may be able to help out with some advice.

[getsome]

Not sure this is an issue but since one mag will lock the slide and not the other try taking the one that wont apart and make sure the mag spring is in the correct way...Some folks have found the spring inserted backwards from the factory....Also call Kahr and have them send you a new slide release lever to see if that will help....I'm glad it's shooting better for you and hopefully it will be 100% soon...good luck...

[sharpenit]

Not sure this is an issue but since one mag will lock the slide and not the other try taking the one that wont apart and make sure the mag spring is in the correct way...Some folks have found the spring inserted backwards from the factory....Also call Kahr and have them send you a new slide release lever to see if that will help....I'm glad it's shooting better for you and hopefully it will be 100% soon...good luck...

Thanks, Getsome, but how do I know which way the spring should be inserted? How do you tell if it's in the wrong way?