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  • #31
    Thanks for all of your help Jocko.
    I just hope that they have a quick turnaround time.

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    • #32
      Darn. I was talking about the outside marks, I missed that chunk out of the inner left rail!
      Wynn

      Correction: jfmay, yes, my PM9 has the same notch on the inner left rail. Pix in later post.
      Last edited by wyntrout; 02-15-2010, 12:39 AM.
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      Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

      Thomas Jefferson said

      “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
      and

      "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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      • #33
        Update on original post: Received it 3 days after I shipped it. They machined the damaged area out of the slide (did not replace it according to the work order) test fired and sent it back. Props to Kahr for an incredibly fast turnaround, but I was suprised they didn't just replace the slide. Any other pm45 owners have a machined notch where the damage is shown in my first post?

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        • #34
          Elars2, I just broke down my PM9 and looked at that notch. I think maybe your "notch" wasn't completely machined originally and the extra metal broke loose. Look at the notch in my slide. I put paper behind it to make it easier to see. Mine looks like yours probably does now, so maybe they completely a missed step. Your picture shows the metal very thin there, where the notch is supposed to be. My guess is that it was too thin and wasn't supposed to be there anyhow.
          Does this look better now and make you feel better?
          Wynn

          Also, jfmay, I noticed the little gap or notch in my inner left rail that I remarked on your gun as not normal. I hadn't paid any attention to the inner notch.
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          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
          Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

          Thomas Jefferson said

          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
          and

          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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          • #35
            well

            Originally posted by elars2 View Post
            Update on original post: Received it 3 days after I shipped it. They machined the damaged area out of the slide (did not replace it according to the work order) test fired and sent it back. Props to Kahr for an incredibly fast turnaround, but I was suprised they didn't just replace the slide. Any other pm45 owners have a machined notch where the damage is shown in my first post?
            the main thing is that it is now Ok and it should work OK, Probably better off with your original slide in that no new break in is needed to mate the slide withthe lwoer part either. cetainly looked like a maching process that sliipped through quality control. being it was a process thaty missed, I would have seen no reaosn for total replacement unless it would have been a cost factor....
            . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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            • #36
              Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
              All polymer framed guns have the "Witness marks" Manual page 15, right column, Step 2, photo 3 covers this:
              http://www.kahr.com/DL/kahrmanual.pdf
              I failed to RT#M the first time I tried to take my PM9 apart as I do my K9 -- different!
              Wynn
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              I'm not talking about the slide or frame witness marks. I'm talking about the chip or mark on the guide rail inside the frame. Are you referencing the same? Look at my picxs.

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              • #37
                Yes. Look at my first photo above. The left inside rail has the same notch.
                Wynn
                USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                Thomas Jefferson said

                “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                and

                "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                • #38
                  First of all, I do not have a PM45.

                  I have had some peening and chipping of metal on the inside of the slide where the barrel hood hits the front of the slide (PM9). I have never mentioned this before because it's not a problem. It must have happened within the first 100 or 200 rounds. It chipped to a point and then stopped. It's noticable but it's minor and on the inside where you can't see it when the gun is assembled. I have 985 rounds now with no more peening. It's not getting any worse. I can post photos if anyone really wants to see it.

                  RUDEDOG--my Pm9 barrel is bent a little on that corner where it hits the slide. It is not getting any worse. I have had 2 PM9 barrels and both did it (dented on the top back end).

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                  • #39
                    I think most of the Kahr barrels have some high points that get peened down with use -- part of the breaking in, but some are more than that from the posted photos. My barrels, especially the PM9, have a little here and there, but not problematic. It's a busy little space inside the slide during firing and recoil and resetting everything.
                    Wynn
                    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                    Thomas Jefferson said

                    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                    and

                    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
                      Yes. Look at my first photo above. The left inside rail has the same notch.
                      Wynn
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                      Wyntrout, I see it now and feel much better. Thanks!!! JFMAY

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                      • #41
                        I talked to Ian at Kahr this morning. He gave me instructions and I dropped off my PM45 at FedEx. He said that the turnaround time would be like 2 weeks.

                        Thanks again Jocko.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by jfmay View Post
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                          Wyntrout, I see it now and feel much better. Thanks!!! JFMAY
                          You're welcome. I'm glad the PM9 is so easy to break down -- no tools! I think that a lot of us learned something about the "notch" that should be there! I'm glad that you got it fixed quickly. It IS disturbing that things like that get through QC.
                          Wynn
                          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                          Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                          Thomas Jefferson said

                          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                          and

                          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                          • #43
                            My barrel is crunched at the same spot ,something is out of tolerance. It shouldn't affect function though,I hope.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Krusty View Post
                              My barrel is crunched at the same spot ,something is out of tolerance. It shouldn't affect function though,I hope.
                              Krusty,
                              It won't affect function, but you might want to clean up that spot with some sort of abrasive tool: http://kahrtalk.com/showpost.php?p=15876&postcount=11
                              Regards,
                              Greg
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