CM40 or S&W Shield 40

[O'Dell]

I did say carry weapon. I won't carry a 1911 style pistol. DAO striker fired for me as a carry weapon. Therefore, no safey needed. Thumb safeties on Ruger SR, S&W M&P etc..., in my opinion, are not called for or needed.

In the sixties Brownings and 1911 WERE carry weapons, especially if you were in the service like I was. We'll have to agree to disagree - I much prefer a manual safety. Plus, I prefer a hammer fired system like my SIG's, HK's, S&W's, and 1911's.

[Markis82]

In the sixties Brownings and 1911 WERE carry weapons, especially if you were in the service like I was. We'll have to agree to disagree - I much prefer a manual safety. Plus, I prefer a hammer fired system like my SIG's, HK's, S&W's, and 1911's.

Most of us like what we're familiar with. Personally, being born in 1964 I was not carrying a gun in the sixties. I like the more modern designs. My point is, guns like the Shield, modern striker fired DAO handguns, do not require a manual safeties. I would never pick a modern design that has a manual safety for my carry weapon. My safey is between my ears and knowing the gun will not fire unless the triggers is pulled. I have not seen many revolvers with manual safeties. Apparently they are not needed. Well they are not needed on modern striker semi autos either. In fact if the SHTF, the safety may just get you killed. However, a safety is required on hammer fired pistols where you carry with the hammer cocked. I'm not knocking anyone who likes to carry those weapons. They are just not for me.

[BroncoAZ]

Most of us like what we're familiar with. Personally, being born in 1964 I was not carrying a gun in the sixties. I like the more modern designs. My point is, guns like the Shield, modern striker fired DAO handguns, do not require a manual safeties. I would never pick a modern design that has a manual safety for my carry weapon. My safey is between my ears and knowing the gun will not fire unless the triggers is pulled. I have not seen many revolvers with manual safeties. Apparently they are not needed. Well they are not needed on modern striker semi autos either. In fact if the SHTF, the safety may just get you killed. However, a safety is required on hammer fired pistols where you carry with the hammer cocked. I'm not knocking anyone who likes to carry those weapons. They are just not for me.

+1 I couldn't have put that better.

[JFootin]

+1 I couldn't have put that better.

+2.

[HenryinFlorida]

I am replacing my LCP carry gun with my new CW45. I just figured the difference between the 45 and a 40 was minimal, so go with the bigger one. I am also considereing getting an XD-M 45acp with 4.5 in barrel and 13+1 magazine for HD. That will replace my 1911 that I keep in my nightstand drawer.

[Markis82]

I am replacing my LCP carry gun with my new CW45. I just figured the difference between the 45 and a 40 was minimal, so go with the bigger one. I am also considereing getting an XD-M 45acp with 4.5 in barrel and 13+1 magazine for HD. That will replace my 1911 that I keep in my nightstand drawer.

Good choice! I replaced my LCP with a CM9 and have not regretted it one bit. I couldn't hit a Buick at 15' with the LCP. Needless to say my LCP is long gone. With the CM9 I feel like. Can shoot the eye of a fly. I have post some of my target pics around here somewhere. Re: .40, the Kahrs in .45 have less perceived recoil than the .40.

[scoose]

As previously stated the CM is smaller and IMHO better for CC. Also, the Shield has a thumb safety which I am not a fan of for CC pistols. Hickok45 reviewed this pistol and said that the safety was hard enough that it wouldn't engage or disengage in the holster or accidentally by brishing against it. However, I just dont like a safety on a CC pistol. I know for some thats a controversial subject and I'm not trying to start a rant...it's just my opinion.

On the flip side hickok45 like the pistol very much and gave it a great review. For those of you not familiar Hickok reviews a myriad of gund on youtube and give very good open minded opinions. search youtube for hickok45

[scoose]

Good choice! I replaced my LCP with a CM9 and have not regretted it one bit. I couldn't hit a Buick at 15' with the LCP. Needless to say my LCP is long gone. With the CM9 I feel like. Can shoot the eye of a fly. I have post some of my target pics around here somewhere. Re: .40, the Kahrs in .45 have less perceived recoil than the .40.

DITTO

Likewise my P3AT is on the "to trade list". It is accurate enough ( 2-3 in groups at 15yds ) but it is not a reliable piece. Even after I got it running good it still had the occoasional FTE. I just cant trust it.

Since the wife has the CM9 I am going to trade it on a P290.

[BroncoAZ]

I'm not impressed with the Sig P290. Granted I don't own one, but I have shot one. It is too heavy/bulky and has too high of a bore axis for my liking.

[Wolffire99]

I love my LCP and carry it the most. I can get 12" groups at 21 feet all day long with instinctual aiming.

[TheTman]

Only time I've wished for a safety on my Kahr CW40 was when reholstering it behind my back, other than that they are more trouble than they are worth on a DAO pistol.

[O'Dell]

Most of us like what we're familiar with. Personally, being born in 1964 I was not carrying a gun in the sixties. I like the more modern designs. My point is, guns like the Shield, modern striker fired DAO handguns, do not require a manual safeties. I would never pick a modern design that has a manual safety for my carry weapon. My safey is between my ears and knowing the gun will not fire unless the triggers is pulled. I have not seen many revolvers with manual safeties. Apparently they are not needed. Well they are not needed on modern striker semi autos either. In fact if the SHTF, the safety may just get you killed. However, a safety is required on hammer fired pistols where you carry with the hammer cocked. I'm not knocking anyone who likes to carry those weapons. They are just not for me.

As I said we will have to agree to disagree because I do not agree with your premise that a striker fired gun is less needy of a manual safety that any other double action pistol. How many ND have you read about lately, and most seem to be with "modern" pistols as you call them. Please do not state your opinion as a fact. As to being killed by a safety, it won't happen. I swipe off the safety when I draw a pistol whether it has one or not.

[Markis82]

As I said we will have to agree to disagree because I do not agree with your premise that a striker fired gun is less needy of a manual safety that any other double action pistol. How many ND have you read about lately, and most seem to be with "modern" pistols as you call them. Please do not state your opinion as a fact. As to being killed by a safety, it won't happen. I swipe off the safety when I draw a pistol whether it has one or not.

Their are some who were taught to carry with an empty chamber, draw and rack. There are some countries whose military do teach that and require their soldiers to carry that way. However, I wouldn't recommend it. Same with manual safeties on DAO. I wouldn't recommend it. I think if you'd take a poll of experienced gun owners, you'd find more people would agree that manual safeties are useless and possibly dangerous on a striker fire DAO pistols than think manual safeties are needed on a striker fired DOA pistol. If they were soooo necessary, why does my CM9 not have one? Oh look here my Glock doesn't have me either. That LCP even though hammer fired, doesn't have one. BTW, you can find many stories how someone missed, forgot, or something related to their safety causing that person to not get a shot off or delayed their shot. It can happen and does happen! Furthermore, I'm not saying they are less needed on striker fired than hammer fired. I'm saying the manual safety is not needed on any DAO pistols.

[Barth]

Option A Kahr CM40
Option B S&W Shield 40
???
I have to go for the third option.
Option C Kahr MK40
Actually I already took option C - LOL!


I prefer the all stainless Kahrs for 40.
And Polymer in 9mm.
CM9 vs Shield 9?
I'd still go with the Kahr.