Low and to the Left

[jocko]

so so typical

low and lefts are right hand shooters trigger discipline errors. I am a lefty and mys hots are low and right,not the gun fellas, just kahrs looooong trigger that takes some getting used to. So typical of a true double action also.

Unlike Glocks and M & P, our kahrs are darn near 100% double action, your pulling 3/8" trigger travel by design but it has its drawbacks also, as the OP talked about.

I would not move that rear sight also without a sight pusher, as kahrs sights are just so hard to actually move with a brass punch. More than likely you will end up damaging the sight. Best advice that was given to me by a excellent shooter when I talked to him about my low and rights, was to just shoot more rounds down range and it will slowly come to you how to shoot a kahr. I didn't listen that well to him, so I bought a sight pusher and yup, moved it left to get where I wanted, then my shooting style improved, had to move it right, then my shooting style got even better, moved it some more, now it is exactly where it was when I originally started to mess with it. it

[casecloer44]

Pratice with snap caps. Or a POS pistol with hard pull. (amt backup etc.) It will help about 75% of the "shooter's fault" problem.

[jocko]

or better yet, buy about 6 snap caps and just throw themin with a half box of 9mm ammo and then have ur friend load the magazines for you, without your knowledge of if there are any snap caps in that magazine. Trust me,it will make a believer out of you real fast. Had my kahrs had plastic triggers, I probably would have broken then off a long time ago...

[casecloer44]

Very much agreed!

[deadhead1971]

I shoot at about 15 to 20 feet. I tilt the front sight up on the target bullseye (not 6 O'clock hold).

I am right handed.

The first time I shot the PM9, I was hitting center and about 2" to 3" left of point of aim.

The second time shooting, I hit several dead center but most hit about 2 to 3" left.

Looking at the front and rear sights and eyeballing them, I do not notice that they are off.

While dry firing, I noticed a few times I jerked down and left. My problem is recoil anticipation. I need lots of practice.

[jocko]

if

ur gonna shoot a kahr, one needs to practice alot. The loooong but smooth trigger is there by design, but that being said it is a real bugger to master also. If u were a good wheel gun shooter in double action mode then the kahrs should be a breeze. I never was so my techniques or should I say poor techniques just carried right over to my kahrs. (all3 of them).

I can hold at 10 yards about 8" groups with my PM9 which for meis good enough to do what I bought it for but at the same distacne my G19 will shoot 2' groups with ease. But again two totally different gun, with totally different trigger systems. Nice thing about my PM9 is that it ride sin myfront pocket 24/7 where as my G19 is my home and range gun. I won't dress to carry.

I have seen some awesome kahr group0s on other forums, so if your a shooter, a kahr willnot dissapoint you. Me being a lefty my shooer errors are always low and right, snap caps make me cry, as they show my faults BIG TIME. But they willconvince you that it is also not the guns fault either...

[jimmer]

Well with being said jocko it’s a good thing every store around has .40 ammo, I will learn the kahr trigger and have a lot of fun in the processes.

[jocko]

yup

Well with being said jocko it’s a good thing every store around has .40 ammo, I will learn the kahr trigger and have a lot of fun in the processes.

ur right,my local wal-mart has alot of 40 cal wwb but zero 9mm or 380 in anything. The gal says when the get a 1000 rounds of 9mmin, itis gone by days end and has been that way now for 9 months. I can't find any 380 ammo locally for miles.

when I go into gandermt, I take vaseline with me for I just know they are hosing people with the prices of their ammo... wal-Mart coldhave done the same thing BUT THEY DIDN'T..

[alnitak]

I can hold at 10 yards about 8" groups with my PM9 which for meis good enough to do what I bought it for but at the same distacne my G19 will shoot 2' groups with ease.

Just FYI, I shoot 2"-3" groups off hand at 10 yards with the PM9 (the groups open up if I double-tap or empty the mag fast), and I've seen tests where the PM9 shoots 2" groups at 25 yards from the bench. It's an accurate little gun, even with the short sight radius and "snappy" recoil. As you pointed out, it won't shoot as tight of groups when shooting fast as with a service-type pistol (with longer sight radius, DA/SA trigger, barrel weight to minimize recoil, etc.), but with practice, it will be as accurate as you will ever need in a CC weapon.

[deadhead1971]

This is a follow-up to my post on page 2.

Went out and shot 100 more rds yesterday and was hitting just about dead-center point of aim at about 20-23 feet. (375 rds total through PM9). I am glad I did not mess with the sights after the 1st and 2nd outting where I was hitting left. The 3rd outting yesterday I was "in the zone."

[NavJAG06]

Proof again as I found it the hard way... the shooter ... not the pistol in most cases. Glad you are enjoying the PM9 and its accuracy.