CM40 On The Way

[ilmbaba]

Glad it's working for you!

The follower bit is odd. Sounds almost like mine when the front skirt broke off the follower. The skirt should keep everything in the magazine and make the spring invisible from outside. If you can see the magazine spring just by looking at the front of the magazine, the follower is probably broken. I hope not, but it's pretty common with Kahr "fotays".

That appears to be exactly what happened. I took the magazine apart and out falls a piece of black plastic. I could see the spring in the magazine while it was assembled, so I figured something was up.
Went to the Kahr website to get their phone number, but it appears to be down (they must have known I would be calling).
I'm sure they'll do the right thing for me. It seems like their customer service is top notch, according to what I've been reading.
At least the gun still fired. I don't consider this anything more than an annoying issue.
Thanks for the info, Tucson.

[ilmbaba]

Well, back to Kahr it goes. They offered to send out a replacement follower, but thought it would be best to send the gun back so they could give it a once-over and make sure everything was lined up correctly. They are sending a prepaid shipping label, so life is good. Might as well get it out of the way now.
I'll miss it while it's gone.

[jocko]

I had one of those followers break like thatin my PM9, and it never malfunctioned even, actually I didn't know it was broke even until I took my mag apart to clean and inspect it. One in over 32K so I just installed another one and so far all is well. Have no clue as to what caused it. I hav eto maybe chalk this up to a poorly made follower

[jocko]

unless he can visibly see wha tthey did, i DOUBT IF THEY TELL HIM, probably gonna get a n answerlike "polished feed ramp. and slide stop installed new follower" If they do any feed ramp mod, I doubt if the owner will see it as it willbe so professionally done, it will never be noticeable. They willget it right and being they werewilling to take it back other than a few weeks without it, he did the right thing..

[ilmbaba]

It's already on the truck. They e-mailed a label, and I boxed it up and sent it off. If they do some sort of modification inside, Jocko's right. I'll never know it.
When I get it back, if it works and doesn't break the follower, I'll be happy. It shot well, felt good, and the price was right. I can wait a few more weeks to finish the break-in. In reality, aside from the magazine issue, the gun worked fine. None of the issues I've read about others having.
I almost picked up the CW45 today, but thought I'd just wait and see how this plays out first.

[TheTman]

Ilmbaba, sorry to get back to you so late, I didn't see your question to me about how I like my CW40 and .45. The CW40 has been a great pistol right out of the box, it was my first polymer pistol and I had a limp wrist problem I needed to cure before I functioned perfectly. Since then never a problem with it, and I really like it. It has quite a bit of muzzle flip, so I ordered the ported barrel for it to see if that tames it down some and I can get off a quicker double tap. My CW45 had to go back to the mother ship, after about 100 rounds, the trigger would not reset, making the gun totally useless. I sent it to Kahr, and they had it back in my hands working perfectly. I really like both of them, they are accurate and very dependable now. Only problem is the CW45 will not feed from the 7 round mags, Kahr wants me to send the pistol and mags back to them to see what's going on, I'm going to get around to doing that one of these days. I did put a Handall Jr. on each of them, and wear some shorty padded biker gloves when shooting to avoid the "cheese grater" effect. Both let you know you've shot a big cartridge out of a light gun, nothing like shooting my 1911's, but for CC either one works for me. I put a laser on the CW45, so it spends more time on me, than the CW40 does, but if that ported barrel works out like I hope, I may get another laser and carry the CW40 more. I bought the CW40 first, as I needed a backup gun in .40 cal for a SD class I was taking, or I might have skipped it and went straight to the CW45. But, I think the .40 will do about any job the .45 will do, just makes a tad smaller hole. I just always have liked the .45, and tend to carry that more often than the .40. I don't see much difference in recoil between the two, others say the .40 is kind of snappy while the .45 is more of a push. I can't wait to see what the ported barrel does for the .40. I plan on shooting a mag thru the old barrel with some Winchester Rangers, then switch barrels and shoot another mag of Rangers, and see how it goes. I'm hoping for a big decrease in muzzle flip, for a quicker follow up shot. If that's the case, the CW40, may replace the CW45 as my 2nd EDC. I have a Boberg 9, that is easy to slip into my front pocket and it splits time with my Kahrs, for a fast run to the quick mart and stuff.

[ilmbaba]

It's on the way home! Possible I can get it tomorrow if FedEx outdoes themselves, but likely next week, and I'm out of town again until Thursday. I'll post what they leave for a note, and if I got any door prizes.
I was so happy, I ended up buying the CW45 today. I'll post that under a different thread.
Thanks.

[cmichael22]

Whats the differences between the PM40 and CM40 or are there not really any?
They look identical!

[TheTman]

PM40 has the polygonal rifling, and comes with 2 mags. CM40 has conventional rifling and comes with 1 mag. People with a PM9 and a CM9 say both shoot and feel the same, the less expensive barrel and 1 mag lets the CM sell for less, much like the CW series vs the P series. They also say not to shoot lead out of the polygonal barrel, but I've heard of people doing so with no ill effects, I guess the polygonal barrel is easier to lead foul than the conventional barrel. I guess you just need to clean it well and remove the lead fouling from the barrel.
On conventional barrels, I've had the groups tighten up after shooting a few rounds of lead handloads thru them. That was the case on a Beretta 92, and a Star Model M, both 9mm. My friend said his uncle told him about that trick, and it seems to work. It made the Beretta a real tack driver, and made the Star shoot more respectable groups. I bought the Star on sale and due to it's reputation for being a tough pistol, not for it being a tack driver, back in the "wonder nine" days. I read where someone took one and shot 100,000 rounds through it, only replacing springs that wore out. Plus it's a nice heavy 1911 looking pistol. Only thing I really don't like about it is removing the mag deactivates it. Can't even lower the hammer without a mag in it. Has no decocker. Star is out of business now after a failed attempt to merge with Astra, both companies bit the dust in May, 1997. They were hoping someone like Beretta would buy the companies, but that never materialized, and the machinery was sold at auction, and some gun company bought up all the spare parts, while frames and barrels were destroyed by the Spanish government. Too bad, as the Star was not a bad pistol for someone on a budget, and accuracy was about the same as an inexpensive 1911.

[RMP96]

I bought a CM40 at the Tampa gun show in early June. Paid $356 for it.

Cleaned & lubed it before first trip to range. On round # 47 I found I was unable to load more than one round in mag. as the follower was broke (front skirt clean brake as somebody else described)

Spoke to Ian at Kahr who advised he would be sending a replacement follower. If that should break they would take the gun back and make adjustments. Still waiting for the replacement follower to arrive.

I have been carrying a PM9 for at least 4 years and shooting it regularly. I did have to send it back to Kahr for the "peening" problem in the first year. After they fixed it all has been fine.

Am hoping the new follower will fix that mag and will be picking up additional mags at the next show.

The 47 rounds I was able to fire were very accurate and the recoil was not a problem. I am hoping my CM40 will prove dependable and replace the 9mm for daily carry.

Glad I was able to find this thread and site. Apparently the mag problem is a normal one.

[ilmbaba]

When my follower broke, I could only load one round until I pushed the follower back a little, and then I could load the rest of the magazine. I am going to go shoot it again today, hopefully, just to make sure I am done with this issue.

[ilmbaba]

OK. Fired another 25 rounds, and the follower stayed in one piece. Just as well, since Kahr did not send an additional magazine or follower when they sent my gun back (which is fine, but I feel a little left out).
I would have shot some more, but it was at the end of a long string of 45 Super tests and firing some in my CW45 and my 1911.

[RMP96]

There was a dely in getting my replacement follower and called Kahr after 3 weeks. Spoke to Jay who got one out to me pretty quick. Installed it and 150 rounds later it has held up so far.

[KelevGadohl]

Good thread.....looking to buy a CM40 soon......finally!

[jocko]

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OK. Fired another 25 rounds, and the follower stayed in one piece. Just as well, since Kahr did not send an additional magazine or follower when they sent my gun back (which is fine, but I feel a little left out).
I would have shot some more, but it was at the end of a long string of 45 Super tests and firing some in my CW45 and my 1911.

acouple of followers just to have around, they won't break ur wallet and u just never know..