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  • #16
    Unless you've fired a small .40 S&W and KNOW what the recoil is like... and are okay with the recoil... I would advise the CM9 for control and pleasure in shooting at the range.

    Our buddy Ljutic recently posted a high-speed video comparison of the PM9 and PM40 side by side, along with two others, but you can see the relative recoil in his excellent video. I don't know if his grip contributes to the twist, but if he's holding both pistols the same, the PM40's recoil is pretty violent... maybe not your cup of tea for the range.

    http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=13693

    Some people seem to get off on the recoil. I have a Mag-na-ported P40 and it's okay for me, but I can imagine that an un-ported one would be no fun for extended shooting at the range. I think my PM45 has less recoil than my P40... or at least more of a push than the sharp .40.

    JMHO

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    • #17
      getting off on recoil is like saying I don't mind getting punched in th face when u can just duck. I really doubt if the BG would know the difference in a 9mm going through him over a 40 cal either. Just sayin and for me range fun is also part of owning agun and from what I read here on this forum the 40 kahrs in polymer are not the funniest of calibers to shoot ALOT. Just sayin.

      Colurse I would consider myself prejudice to 9's to, so take that with a grain of salt when u pour it on an open wound...
      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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      • #18
        The biggest thing wrong with a 40 is that it's not a 45.

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        • #19
          I DO like the PM40, but it is hard to love after a few magazines. Best of all worlds is to shoot and practice mainly with the PM or CM9, and then shoot a magazine through the PM40 and then carry either one.

          That said, I have always been able to shoot the PM40 more accurately than the CM9. I don't know why. I've shot the PM40 out to 25 yards just fine. Very surprising for a 3" gun. I've shot 3" groups at 15 yards with the PM40. Many times. But I can't shoot many groups in one range session with the PM40.

          They are different. Both are good. If I could only have one, it would be the CM9. Maybe. Not sure. I better go shoot both next week just to see.

          Joe

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          • #20
            naw

            Originally posted by O'Dell View Post
            The biggest thing wrong with a 40 is that it's not a 45.
            the biggest thing wrong with a 40 and 45 is that it ain't a 9
            . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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            • #21
              New CM9 owner. BIG thanks to Jocko & all the others who posted " Suggestions for the proper prep of a new Kahr". Following the suggestions, I put just under 500 rd.s for a flawless breakin day of shooting this accurate little pistol. Most of the ammo being my handloads useing lead bullets. I will bet my life on my CM9. I will save the 40 SW for my Glock 23. You should be able control the CM9 with no problems.

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              • #22
                I've enjoyed my CM9 immensely. I did own a PM9 and PM40 prior and they were nice, I for one didn't think the .40 recoiled badly at all, more than the 9mm yes but not a wrist breaker by any stretch. I think I'm going to go buy a CM40 today, I've always like the .40 and I think the CM9 needs a brother anyways. Then I'm done!! Or not...
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SDGlock23 View Post
                  I've enjoyed my CM9 immensely. I did own a PM9 and PM40 prior and they were nice, I for one didn't think the .40 recoiled badly at all, more than the 9mm yes but not a wrist breaker by any stretch. I think I'm going to go buy a CM40 today, I've always like the .40 and I think the CM9 needs a brother anyways. Then I'm done!! Or not...
                  I personally found the P40 recoil uncomfortable and opted for the all steel MK40 Elite.
                  I think there are some ported options for the polymer 40 guns though?
                  That might change my way of thinking.

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                  • #24
                    as most of u well know I am a porter lover kbut I am a 9mm porter shooter to. Lets face it the poly kahr 40's are hand cannons.especially the cm and pm series. Porting will help but IMO don't expect miracles. I compare it to de-nutting a lion. If might be alittle meeker but it is still a lion. NO doubt If I ownd a cm or pm40 it would be magna ported.

                    I have a 16 year old Tom cat that I de-nutted years back. He has never forgiven me but also he is now much more gentle and less wild than before. Consider a ported poly kahr that same way..
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Barth View Post
                      I personally found the P40 recoil uncomfortable and opted for the all steel MK40 Elite.
                      I think there are some ported options for the polymer 40 guns though?
                      That might change my way of thinking.
                      I've never fired a PM or CM 40, but I do have a CW40 that's no problem, and shoots very well for me. That said, I do shoot my MK40 better than my PM9 and they're the same size, but the MK is almost a half pound heavier.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jocko View Post
                        the biggest thing wrong with a 40 and 45 is that it ain't a 9
                        I have to admit I love my 9mm's but I find myself compelled to have at least 2 guns for every caliber that I have. I guess that's why I don't have a .40 because I would have to get 2 more guns. Not that there is anything wrong with that...
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                        • #27
                          I have 100 rounds through my cm 40 . Shoots and cycles great. I did break two mag followers . Kahr has sent me a shipping label , and I have shipped pistol back.

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