XDS versus PM45

[Harleyrider]

I've been trying to decide whether to get an XD-S or wait til the CM45 comes out. This thread is really helping me decide --- thank you, all! BTW, it's really refreshing reading a thread in a Kahr forum that favors a competing product. That's integrity.

As to the comments that the PM9 is a great pocket 9, all I can say is you guys must have bigger pockets than I do. I have a CM9 and almost always have to holster it, using my .380's as pocket guns. Then again, I wear fairly close-fitting jeans probably 90% of the time, so maybe that explains it. Anyway, great thread. Any updates or further thoughts?

[itsthelaw]

Harleyrider... I am with you on the pocket carry thing. I even have trouble with a P380 in my front pocket and have tried everything other than Kydex. It probably just comes down to not liking to have much in your pockets and/or pant style. I'm not wearing "skinny jeans"! Ha.

[Bawanna]

I'm not the least bit warm to pocket carry. No way, no how, ain't gonna happen. In my tiny little mind it's not even a viable option. Thank goodness the world could care less about my tiny little minds opinions.

[otium]

No pocket carry for me and my xds or cw45.

I typically go with a dual clip hybrid and sometimes a one piece single clip kydex holster for short duration carry time. At the size of the xds or cw45, they probably do not need a dual clip, but this hybrid holster style for me is super stable and comfortable.

Might still chose to pocket carry occasionally with a cm9 or more likely a j-frame when I am out and about on a super hot summer day in light clothing, but it is a more rare method of carry for me.

[jocko]

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I'm not the least bit warm to pocket carry. No way, no how, ain't gonna happen. In my tiny little mind it's not even a viable option. Thank goodness the world could care less about my tiny little minds opinions.

situaton IMO is different to.I have always said pocket carry is not a fast draw areafor sure, but it is also a not a special dress thing either.Those little kahrs,expecially the 380's like kahr and Ruger make are made to be pocket carried. The PM 9's are IMO certainlyt pocketable, the 45's as small as they are IMO areprobably a tad to big,but who wants to carry a 45 anyways. Just sayin

[Bill K]

Mostly pocket carry a PM9. If you're going to belt carry my feeling is to go a bit bigger than the PM45 or XDS. Here is an article that kinda argues my way of thinking... http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/spri...-range-report/

[hardluk1]

harleyrider For what its worth the CW series is just a bit smaller than the shield. The cm pm are quit a bit smaller. Difference pistols for different needs.

[ScottieG59]

Recently, I compared the XDs and the PM45. Both seemed fine , but I can actually pocket carry this XDs.

If I am going to carry IWB, I can easily conceal my Glock 19 or 27.

My common pocket carry gun is a Kahr PM9. It is an amazing little gun.

The XDs does not detail strip like a Kahr or Glock. There are a couple roll pins in the XDs slide. Fortunately, it it very easy to remove and clean the striker and striker channel on the XDs. It involves dealing with roll pins to go further. It is still easy to clean.

The Kahr allows easier access to parts and is very Glocklike.

The other thing is that the PM45 has a track record. People know what to expect and that may help.

[cloud]

The XDs does not detail strip like a Kahr or Glock. There are a couple roll pins in the XDs slide. Fortunately, it it very easy to remove and clean the striker and striker channel on the XDs. It involves dealing with roll pins to go further. It is still easy to clean.
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For some reason I think it is eaiser to strip my xds than my cm9 .But That could just be me.

[eklipto101]

My daily carry is the XDs specially now that I put some XS night sight and pocket carry the PM9 when the occasion arrise,,,,Love both

[Hunter991]

I have the cw9 and the cm9 but am currently looking at the XDs.. thanks for the review. If you wouldn't mind answering a few quesitons...

How is the recoil on the XDs? lets say compared to the cm9... any guess?

i haven't shot a 45 in a long time and that was a 1911. But with 9mm flying off the shelves i want to diversify my inventory. I had a Sheild come in that had my name on it but passed on it since i already have the CW9 and didn't need another 9mm. also have a Springfield XD9 (full size) that i love but too big to carry. Now very interested in a 45 but don't want it to be unpleasant to shoot. I practice alot with my carry guns. The cm9 recoil to me is quite acceptable just don't know how much more comes with the 45 in a small frame.

[JERRY]

if and when i can find more .45 ammo im going to shoot my PM45 about 100 more times, shes teetering on the brink of reliability but hasnt shown it yet.....after the next bout if i can not get her to run right its pawnshop fodder.

[eklipto101]

How is the recoil on the XDs? lets say compared to the cm9... any guess?


well it is a .45acp but actually it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. If you use 230gr +p it's (of course) more bite but again that goes for all caliber. I use the 200gr but I read in another forum that the XDs likes the 180gr....Remember a 9mm could expand but a 45 will not shrink....haha

[gb6491]

How is the recoil on the XDs?

Here's a little video I did a while back that that includes my XD-S and 9mm Shield; perhaps some of the difference in the recoil of each pistol can be gleaned from it:

Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Lookin at that fine video, it looks like the 9 Shield was more obnoxious in muzzle flip than the 45's.

Nice video.