please redesign your magazines

[Tinman507]

c6vetter,

This forum is for people who own Kahr guns and come looking for help. We discuss a lot of topics both good and bad, but when the discussion turns nasty, insulting or just plain badmouthing, that crosses the line.

I would suggest you change your tone or find another place to spew.

[jocko]

good

1. Surprised the mods haven't closed this thread as it speaks truthfully about issues with these pistols. How dare you!

2. Mags are garbage, pure and simple. I added Wolff springs to mine ... Will probably cause the things to explode ... Putting a quality component in a cheesy design

3. Good luck with CS. I've called, emailed, tried new manager, Tim Pierce, all to no avail.

4. Selling seems like a logical decision ... Get a real gun ... Glock, Ruger, S&W ... Lifetime warranties with people who are competent and care

Until u posted the posts were civil. this forum allows that,but then every once in awhile an a$$hole pops up and ruins the thread and then yup it gets locked. Just sayin.
suggestion. hope u do #4.

[beatlesfan]

I've got a T9 and hate the mags as well. I'm always losing rounds in my pockets/bags/mag pouches. Great guns, terrible mags. I really hope they come out with better mags. I'll still keep my T9 though.

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[TonyT]

The only problems I have experienced with the PM-9 magazines is that they do not drop free when empty. Could that be due to the mag release?

[jocko]

IMO, I doubt it. some have on the kahr tech forum given some good suggestions in fixing that.

[Tinman507]

Sometimes the mags need a tiny squeeze at the top to make them drop free. Try it without any of the guts in the mag. Slip it in the gun see where it's binding. Give her a gentle squeeze with a channel loks. Slip it back in.

[c6vetter]

Until u posted the posts were civil. this forum allows that,but then every once in awhile an a$$hole pops up and ruins the thread and then yup it gets locked. Just sayin.
suggestion. hope u do #4.

You resemble that remark. Based on your 'language', you should get a warning, no?

[c6vetter]

Sometimes the mags need a tiny squeeze at the top to make them drop free. Try it without any of the guts in the mag. Slip it in the gun see where it's binding. Give her a gentle squeeze with a channel loks. Slip it back in.

Tinman,

I just read your quote beneath your owned firearms. You must not be that bad owning a Ruger and I would suspect supporting the Republican party. I will stand down, but I do believe that ANY forum worth its salt speaks candidly about the products that they represent. How many threads speak to the magazine issue? It's REAL. It's UNACCEPTABLE. Kahr in general has sub-optimal customer care on these REAL, UNACCEPTABLE issues. Sure, they've got some good people, that I am certain. My EXPERIENCE just has been poor. Now, if you work for Kahr or know anyone at Kahr that you consider responsive and competent, please share. Otherwise, allow members to share their REAL experiences. Not everything with this brand is 'brownies and balloons' !!!

[Bawanna]

Constructive criticism is openly tolerated provided its not all negative with no effort to give Kahr an opportunity to correct the issue.

Getting personal or exercising an extreme negative attitude is generally frowned upon and NOT tolerated.

When you give a jab, you can expect to get a jab in return from the other players.

[c6vetter]

Constructive criticism is openly tolerated provided its not all negative with no effort to give Kahr an opportunity to correct the issue.

Getting personal or exercising an extreme negative attitude is generally frowned upon and NOT tolerated.

When you give a jab, you can expect to get a jab in return from the other players.

Good to know. So I can call someone who has had an experience that differs from mine an 'a$$hole'???

[Bawanna]

If the person who's experience is different than yours is acting like one then yes you can.

[warbird1]

I have 500+ roumds thru my PM9. No problem with either mag. The only problems that I did have (one of which I caused) the customer service was madnificent.

[Theseeker]

My new PM9 after 300 round break in following procedures on forum just came back from Kahr for FTF problems with the tip of round jammed under feed ramp. They polished feed ramp and adjusted main spring. Still has problem with 7 round magazine. Will call them when they open on Tuesday. Truly disappointed. I need a pistol that works 100%. I bet my life on it everyday but I am not a betting man.

Very disappointed a $800 pistol does not work perfectly out of the box. Beyond a regular cleaning, and break in period where minor malfunctions are expected, a new expensive pistol should not require amateur gun smithing, magazine polishing, spring adjustments or anything including needing to join and read this forum.

I joined the Honda Ridgeline forum to find new toys and ideas about my new truck as did most not because it had problems. Did not see dealer till first service when they changed the oil and sent me on my way. No problems in 7500 miles. That is what I expect from $800 pistol. I did not mind spending a few hours tuning up a <$200 small pistol I purchased several years ago according to it's forum.

[wagon]

Theseeker: Kahr ACCURATELY slotted the CM and CW in the market segment.. PERFECTLY matching price and quality. These two are still a good buy (hence I did)... but other model line up???????.. You can be the judge.

2 yrs ago I sold my PM9 almost without a loss and I called it a BIG WIN! and I am equally happy with the CM9 and CW9 that I have.. coz my expectation on them is set at a $350 level but am still AMUZED when I read people tell others to do this & that to resolve issues that should not even have left kahr's door in the first place..

I love this site....

[jocko]

The vast majority of all kahrs need nuttin done to them but load, rack and shoot.
Some have needed tweeking that fellow members have dissected and found simple fixes. Again it is an owner choice to do or not to do. We give suggestions and places to look for ones stated issues. Often times it beats boxing it up and sending it back. again it is owners choice. What u and I think and feel should come out of these gun makers and other product makers factories doesn't always work that way. Some swear by kahrs, some swear at kahrs. Most all the gun forums Ihave read that are reltaed to lets say Glocks, Sig, kel tek, Rugers, are not there to praise the product only but also to help a new owner tha tis having issues--if possable.

I';d sure like to think when some of our forum members ask an owner to recheck his magazine springs to see that all is well, that that is not asking to much nor a really black mark on the gun maker either. sh!t just happens, quality controls donm't catch it all,no place. Wehave seen some PM and CM owners who lost that little end nut on their recoil spring, never good when it happens to u, but those recoil assembly's come to kahr fully assembled, they are supposed to have locktite on those threads. Is kahr supposed to test each nut to see?? Then the locktite ceases to work after that. It just happens and I have never read where kahr every backed off from helping an owner who experienced this issues..

Indeed I love this site, for most are here to help......