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  • #16
    Uh... the Glock's trigger is TOO short and easy to pull... when compared to the Kahr... for SAFETY! And, Kahr didn't give you a box with a big dowel-thingie to push the trigger over and fire LOADED GLOCKS when putting them back into the case! THAT was a wonderful idea!

    Wynn
    USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
    Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
    Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

    Thomas Jefferson said

    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
    and

    "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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    • #17
      Once you gun loosens up a bit you should be able to chamber a round using the slingshot method with no problem. See the vid to learn how to employ the slingshot method properly.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjLbFOw8sow
      Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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      Colt Gold Cup 70 series
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      • #18
        Now that's the video I wanted. I think I "lost" it somewhere, but just saved it again. That's a good video... none of the wimpy pinch with weak thumb and index finger stuff.

        That method gives a better rack... a much better grip, especially for women and people, as I, who don't have a lot of strength in their hands.

        Wynn
        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
        Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
        Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

        Thomas Jefferson said

        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
        and

        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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        • #19
          i think one would play hell doing that with a P380. Just sayin.
          . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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          • #20
            I use that method! The P380 is really tight, as are most of my Kahrs. Some can be gently racked and chamber okay, but a good rack to begin with, is preferable!

            Dang! I need to get away from this computer and get out of the house... need to go to Costco... yeah, I know... and get some goodies... including one of those rotisserie chickens for supper... and another meal in a few days.

            Wynn
            USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
            Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
            Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

            Thomas Jefferson said

            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
            and

            "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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            • #21
              I would thinkit wold be very har dto clear a jam on the P380 with that method for ur hand is gonna cover the ejection port area,or other wise one is gonna get a very crappy hold on just tthat small part ofthe back area of the slide. Just sayin. I know I cannot rack it propelry with the cupped hand methond on the P380. Just no way..
              . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


              NRA BENEFACTOR MEMBER


              MAY GOD BLESS MUGGSY

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              • #22
                Wow... a lot of good advice in this thread. Thanks for taking the time to help a new guy out.

                I took the gun to the range this afternoon and put about 75 rounds through it using a variety of bullet brands, and it at everything I fed it. I was very pleased with how tight the groupings were as well. I think I have a new favorite CC gun!

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                • #23
                  Aw, c'mon, Jocko, my hands aren't THAT big. I just tried that method with no problem. I use it with the P380 all of the time. I just have the three fingers over the top of the slide without covering the ejection port. My pinky is hanging out there like when you're drinking "High Tea". I can get a good grip that way. My pistol can stay pointed down range, too... unlike the "pinch" method!

                  Wynn
                  USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                  Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                  Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                  Thomas Jefferson said

                  “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                  and

                  "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                  • #24
                    This is redundant, but a very slight modification to the magazine follower should fix any issues you have. Ten minutes to do three mag followers using a pencil and 600 grit sandpaper. I can hand rack my PM9 in SLOOOOW Motion ant it chambers every time with all ammo and no hangups. Six and seven round mags work equally well.
                    Shoot another couple of hundred rounds first, then try reshaping one follower slightly and give it a try. There is a YouTube video showing the results also.

                    Post #11 I sanded half as much as they did. Just lengthening the transition point a bit. YMMV.

                    http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t...wer+mod&page=2

                    There is a YouTube video showing the results also.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogM036r016M
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                    • #25
                      After break in, I can chamber a round by racking the slide with no modifications to the followers.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jocko View Post
                        I would thinkit wold be very har dto clear a jam on the P380 with that method for ur hand is gonna cover the ejection port area,or other wise one is gonna get a very crappy hold on just tthat small part ofthe back area of the slide. Just sayin. I know I cannot rack it propelry with the cupped hand methond on the P380. Just no way..
                        I'm with you Jocko I'd never get away using that method on a pistol the size of the P380. Personally with as sharp as the cuts are on the slide serations of my PM9 I have no problem just grabbing it with my finger and thumb. Maybe it's because it also has a few thousand rounds through it and it's pretty broken it. Mine also has no problem slingshotting a round into the chamber. It never did as long as I did my part correctly.
                        To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.


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                        • #27
                          I di my PM about the same way as u stated also. It is so so smooth today that it is not an issue. At first I had issues trying to hand rack even my PM9. Maybe I need to trade my harley and buy a real mans bike like a goldwiner, to tuffenme up. U think Popeye. Just sayin
                          . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                          • #28
                            Oh good grief NO. I rather own Victory than a wing. Just kidding I could care less what anyone rides. If you want to become a Wing Dinger go for it my friend. Only thing I can say is that old 2004 Roadking isn't going anywhere. We've got way to many miles and smiles together to part company. I tried hand racking my PM9 but it just never felt right doing so because I'm left handed, and if there is a shell in the chamber it ejects right into my hand. With all my semi auto pistols I just push with the left hand and pull back hard and fast with the right until it pulls out from between my thumb and finger and let the slide slam foward.
                            To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.


                            SHOOT STRAIGHT, RIDE SAFE

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jocko View Post
                              i think one would play hell doing that with a P380. Just sayin.
                              I do it with my P380, Jocko, without any problems. Of course a ham handed Harley ridin' gentleman such as your self might have a problem. I was taught how to rack the slide of an auto by my father and he taught me the same method that Flick shows in his vid. I've been doing it in that manner since I was eight years old. Works for me.
                              Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

                              Life Member - NRA
                              Colt Gold Cup 70 series
                              Colt Woodsman
                              Ruger Mark III .22-45
                              Kahr CM9
                              Kahr P380

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                              • #30
                                I guess I lucked up and got a great one. My CM9 only has 75 rounds through it and I can just grab it with my thumb and forefinger and rack a round into the chamber without issue. I also don't have any issues field stripping it. The first couple times I field stripped it I had to tap the slide release lever with the butt of a screw driver, but now I can just push it out with my thumb no problem.
                                ”Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.”
                                Ben Franklin

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