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    I took my new CM9 to the range today very excited to put 200 rounds through it and test it's accuracy and to my surprise I can't shoot it for crap.

    This is the first small handgun I've ever owned so I'm looking for some tips. It's obviously something I am doing wrong as these pistols are renowned for their accuracy. I'm a pretty good shot with full-sized and compact handguns so I'm not sure where I'm going wrong with this one.

    I purchased it to be my CCW so I any ideas, tips, anything would be appreciated.

  • #2
    Without knowing what your used to and what your previous shooting experience has been I'd say your mostly just not used to the long trigger pull.

    It takes a little getting acquainted with if your not used to. Revolver shooters have an advantage with the change.

    At first I tried staging the trigger but found that it's best to just have a smooth continuous pull all the way through.

    I'd keep your range short and your sessions not terribly long. Once you get a little tired or sloppy, your no longer gaining anything and maybe hurting your progress.

    Don't give up, it's worth the effort.
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    • #3
      The Big Grin Club!

      Welcome to the forum, justin81! There is a wealth of valuable information in the New Member Area and the Kahr-Tech sections of the forum.

      And welcome to the CM9 Owners Club! Our official symbol is the wide grin smily because we are so happy with our purchase that we can't wipe the smiles off our faces!

      Here is your club badge.
      Very interesting...

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      • #4
        It takes practice shooting the small DAO CCW pistols effectively, especially the snubby revolvers. I was greatly frustrated as well when I first started shooting my snubby. At first, my hits were sporadic and all over the place, but now I can get most of my shots within a 8" circle at 21 feet. I'm less effective with rapid fire, but getting better.

        One of the problems you may be having is with the long trigger pull and anticipating the recoil. When you pull the trigger and anticipating recoil, your aim is going off target even though it may seem it isn't. Try not jerking or staging the trigger. The anticipating the recoil thing is psychological and you won't get over that problem until you become used to it.
        Last edited by Cristofori; 01-28-2013, 06:16 PM.

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        • #5
          When I first got my PM I shot my Glock 27 significantly better, but now after a few years I shoot the PM a little better than the Glock. I carry the PM much more and I practice dry firing with it almost every night. Practicing smooth trigger control is one of the keys.

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          • #6
            Very good advice from those who've responded!

            Since my shooting background was formed with double action revolvers in the 1960s and 70s, the trigger on my CM9 was actually much smoother than those of the Smith & Wesson and Colt revolvers of my youth.

            Those who have told you to shorten the distance at which you shoot are quite correct. By short, I mean no more than 3 yards (9 ft.), if possible at your shooting range.

            Start slowly, pulling smoothly all the way through the trigger. Concentrate on keeping the sights aligned, and avoid rapid fire until you are consistently getting hits where you expect them to be.

            Smaller handguns are more difficult to master, and even minor changes in trigger pull can adversely affect your results. Recoil is also greater with the small guns, so if you see your impact points changing, rest a bit and start over. Even better, if someone can load dummy rounds randomly in your magazine, you'll instantly see if you've developed a flinch.

            Go Slow! Only after you are consistently getting good hits up close will you want to extend the distance between you and the target.

            Don't get discouraged! Practice at close ranges. Increase the distance when ready to do so, and soon you'll become proficient in firing your new CM9.
            Last edited by Rio Vista Slim; 01-27-2013, 09:01 PM. Reason: Punctuation, naturally!
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            • #7
              Mix some snapcaps with the rounds and it should give you the answer to the problem. Don't give up, practice makes you better

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              • #8
                Many of us have ordered and installed the 5 pound striker spring from Wolff Springs (who make the springs for Kahrs anyway). It reduces the trigger pull by about a pound, which makes it a little easier to pull and stay on target.

                Edit: Get the 3-pack so you will have springs to put in your other Kahrs!
                Very interesting...

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                • #9
                  In addition to all advice given above, dry fire the hell out of it. That will give you the best idea of when the trigger breaks.

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                  • #10
                    You'll Get It

                    Hey justin,
                    Take your time and practice you need to get used to the trigger on that gun plus the small sight radius.Like the other said dry fire but try this as you dry fire pick a target focus on that front sight and pull the trigger,if your front sight does not move when you fire you will hit what you aim at.I had trouble at first with my cm9 nothing like my 1911.Now what I practice is instinctive point shooting probably the most real way you'll use it I rarely get the sights above my chin level.Here's my last target from the range 2 8round magazines, shots about 1 second apart at 7 yards.You can see this little gun will perform.Right now hard to practice with this ammo BS going on.Keep at it you will get just remember if that front sight does not move as you pull the trigger you'll be on target
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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by justin81 View Post
                      I took my new CM9 to the range today very excited to put 200 rounds through it and test it's accuracy and to my surprise I can't shoot it for crap.

                      This is the first small handgun I've ever owned so I'm looking for some tips. It's obviously something I am doing wrong as these pistols are renowned for their accuracy. I'm a pretty good shot with full-sized and compact handguns so I'm not sure where I'm going wrong with this one.

                      I purchased it to be my CCW so I any ideas, tips, anything would be appreciated.
                      is a kahr club for those who report: "can't shoot it for crap". I would have been the first member and after over 5 years with my PMj9, I would stillbe a charter member. Join the club my friend, ur not alone, no one said kahrs are easy to soot accurately FOR SOME.their smooth looooong trigger syste just takes time and some never get alot better. Ain't the gun, but fokk it the gun can't talk so yes it is the gun. there is sumpin wrong with all 4 of my kahrs to.
                      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JFootin View Post
                        Many of us have ordered and installed the 5 pound striker spring from Wolff Springs (who make the springs for Kahrs anyway). It reduces the trigger pull by about a pound, which makes it a little easier to pull and stay on target.

                        Edit: Get the 3-pack so you will have springs to put in your other Kahrs!
                        Dont mean to high jack the thread but do you get light primer strikes when using the 5 lb springs ?

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                        • #13
                          The four keys to accuracy with any gun are sight alignment, sight picture, trigger control and follow through. To insure a good sight picture and sight alignment try shooting from a pistol rest. Smoothly pull straight back applying pressure with the pad of you index finger allowing the first joint to go slack. Pressure to the trigger must be applied perpendicular to the bore axis to keep from pulling or pushing your shot. You must follow through with the shot knowing exactly how the sights were aligned to the target when the gun fired. See this video for further help.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKdXmcdB5WE&lr=1
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                          • #14
                            Here is a dry fire drill that will smooth out your trigger pull.
                            Place an empty cartridge on top of your front sight (I know the balance will be tough at first) and while maintaining a sight picture pull the trigger. The goal is to keep that empty cartridge balanced on your front sight. When you are consistently successful you will notice a significant improvement in your range results.

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                            • #15
                              About thirteen years ago when i got into collecting guns my ccw for a long time was a 22 or 25 I think. Well anyways as with everything no matter how many firearms you may have shot in your life time or how many you may own takes time for each and there own. The key as we all know is always safety first and with time and patience you will become a expert to yourself. Hang in there and keep practicing when you can. Grasp and always try to focus on the front sight. And yes dry firing works good also here it is fifteen years later and i still dry fire at home all the time. A lot of times i do it before going to the range. And i am always pleased with my results. Good Luck

                              Also when you go to the range practice more at a short range like 7 yards or closer for awhile or a few visits and then work your way down. With time you will group those rounds on target like you want to see them.

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