CM9 Slide issues?

[CJB]

when I chamber a round I rarely can pull slide back and let it go

I rarely carry with a round in the hole

I have many handguns and rifles and more training and experience than most

I can come out of holster and chamber and not miss a beat

the chance of ever having to use my gun is very slim but yes you have to be ready

But now that I know what it all about, carrying one in the hole makes me feel better

Only on duty. Military. State police. SP special task force. Now ATF special task force team leader. I have been there done that. things i dont discuss. My original question was about the slide issue I was wondering about. Not to listen to wannabes that think they are experts that have only shot at paper

Your story is all over the place. There's smoke here... thick smoke.

You have all sorts of experience, and professional training, but didn't heed (or perhaps even read) the manufacturer's manual.

Your superior training, and vast experience should tell you that your sidearm needs to be ready. Your vast experience should have been able to guide you to a safe-to-carry pistol. Maybe something like a LadySmith would be more suitable? Or, if you had some experience, you'd have known how safe it is to carry your Kahr with "one in the hole".

But, your crowning statement "Things I don't discuss".... is the clincher. Every BS, wanna be, so-and-so, self styled legend in their own mind ends up with that line.

I'm not buying this crap for a second.

[jocko]

probably rides a honder to.

[tcme64]

Agreed Ikeo. Like I said this my first Kahr. It operates, shoots different than what I am used to. Just have o get used to it and I will.

[tcme64]

Jocko. All I wanted was an answer to a simple question. The Kahr is different from what I own and was trained with. But I think it's a good gun for the money.

[wyntrout]

An important part of chambering a round either way is to hold the pistol firmly. If you "limp-wrist" or hold the pistol loosely, momentum is lost to the pistol, moving it. The slide needs all of the momentum to strip a round out of the magazine and push it fully into the chamber. Kahrs are really close-toleranced and have stout springs, but if you ride the slide at all, or use a weak grip on the pistol, you're likely to get the top round diving and jamming against the right side of the of the feed ramp.

If you've ever tried to hammer a nail into a board you're holding in your other hand, that doesn't work well unless you put the board on the ground or a hard surface... then you can hammer the nail in... if you don't hit your thumb!

Don't use the thumb and forefinger "pinch method" rack, Use the weak hand over the top of the slide, thumb along the slide and simultaneously rack vigorously while pushing with the gun hand. Release the slide cleanly as it reaches the end of its travel and is pulled from you hand. With a FIRM grip on the pistol, this should chamber a round every time. You can start with the slide locked back or forward, too, it makes no difference.

With no round in the chamber, you're starting off behind the BG and may have no chance to use two hands. You may be fending a BG off... a knife-wielder... one arm could be injured, but you may never get that pistol loaded... in which case you only have a rock. Chambering a round is one of the most problematic times for users. You have to do it perfectly and the Kahr is not going to fire without a long trigger pull.

Wynn

[jocko]

I don't think this wannabee stuff flys well with anyone. to me when someone tries to throw out all those credentials, it is like saying we don't know what we are talking about because we have not supposably walked in ur shoes, or at least not got on here and tried to relay that to members who are trying to help u and who definitely have far more experience with kahrs than you do.

No problem: I have said enough already.

[tcme64]

Thanks Wynn. The Kahr is tight for sure which means its we'll built. It just needs a little extra pull for now to chamber. It feel like its grinding while pulling it back. Never felt this before. Maybe a few more hundred rounds will shine this up. I have 6 sigs and everyone I can chamber with 2 fingers. As far as carrying empty thats just what I prefer when not working. We r good to for the go. Good point you brought up about 2 hands to chamber. Everyone should know how to chamber with one hand. Use your boot or whatever is available. Had my hand shot and was glad I had training to know how to continue defending

[tcme64]

Jocko u did help. And thank you. It all went down hill because I don't need to and chose not to carry loaded when off work. No big deal.

[zamboni]

Jocko u did help. And thank you. It all went down hill because I don't need to and chose not to carry loaded when off work. No big deal.

Not carrying with a round in the chamber is your choice and everyone accepts that. They are just trying to convince you to do what most all of us feel is correct, and what kahr pistols were designed for...carry with one in the chamber.
Just like if you came on here and said that you voted for obama. That is your right, but you would get quite a few people trying to "help" you and show you the error in your ways.

As for the gun..Just rack the slide with authority and make sure you don't ride it. If that doesn't work now, I'm sure it will after a couple hundred more rounds.

[KoolBreeze]

I use the no-no method of grasping the back of the slide with my thumb and forefinger and it works every time for me. But I'm a big guy with big strong hands and I rack the slide violently with authority.

I'm sorry but I think CJB nailed it. To me not wanting to carry with one in the chamber screams inexperience, as does boosting otherwise. If you're wanting to keep a loaded handgun away from kids then keep it on your person or locked up. Simple. But anyway, good luck racking a CM9 with your shoe because you'll need it.

[tcme64]

Ha ha.. Did not vote or Obama. Heck can't find anyone who did or at least wont admit it. Next time I go shooting I will get more aggressive while racking. I thought I was. Does anyone else's have like a dry sound? Almost sounds like it is grinding on the way back and it is well oiled.
I own probably 30 handguns and this is the first without a visible safety. Not meaning a manual safety. I read up on this and like Kahrs thinking on this safety. Though the longer pull felt strange at first, I am use to it and shooting nice groups at 25. About 300 rounds of 4 different ammo types and just a couple minor jams which is normal

[Tinman507]

tcme,

It will smooth out and the parts will burnish in and you won't feel that gritty feeling after some more rounds downrange.

Keep shooting it and cleaning and running it wet for a while. You'll know when it's ready.

Welcome to the Forum.

[Ikeo74]

Thanks Wynn. The Kahr is tight for sure which means its we'll built. It just needs a little extra pull for now to chamber. It feel like its grinding while pulling it back. Never felt this before. Maybe a few more hundred rounds will shine this up. I have 6 sigs and everyone I can chamber with 2 fingers. As far as carrying empty thats just what I prefer when not working. We r good to for the go. Good point you brought up about 2 hands to chamber. Everyone should know how to chamber with one hand. Use your boot or whatever is available. Had my hand shot and was glad I had training to know how to continue defending

Here is what I did to my CM9 to smooth the action some. I got the grease gun I use to lube the car and took some grease and applied to the double spring recoil assembly. I made sure the grease got in between the 2 coil springs to cut friction from the springs rubbing togather. It did wonders for the gun and stayed put.

[tcme64]

KoolBreeze you are right and brought up an interesting point. The point is what if you are caught in the situation that you are wounded and can't use both hands? Your gun jams and your a sitting duck. Something I am going to play with because you have to be able to get firing again. My training showed me ways with my boot and sitting and using your knees being together to chamber. Gun upside down if its a jam. God forbid if its a stove pipe. But this was with Berettas and Sigs.
As far as not carrying chambered, I rarely do nor do my cop friends when they are also not on duty. This is what is taught. But dealing with glock or sig mentality. Not Kahr

[tcme64]

Ikeo.... Very interesting. Sounds like a good idea. This may be where the grinding is coming from.