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    I made my second trip to the range yesterday with my CM 9 and suffered my second breakage in two sessions.

    First day out I noticed at the end of the day that my magazine follower was broken. Kahr sent me a replacement follower in two days.

    Second trip the range, and once again the mag follower was broken,but this time I noticed that the recoil spring was also broken! The tip had screwed off was missing, causing the spring to come apart.

    I'm amazed that the gun functioned flawlessly through 80 rounds with the mag follower and recoil spring in that condition.

    Emailed Kahr and Jay responded that he will send out a shipping label to return the gun for repair.

    How can I trust my life to this gun? I'm thinking of replacing the CM 9 with a Sig 938. I looked at one today and it is sweet!

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    Losing faith in my CM9

    Sorry ur having these issues buckshot! Kahr will make it right!
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    • #3
      well

      Originally posted by Buckshotshorty View Post
      I made my second trip to the range yesterday with my CM 9 and suffered my second breakage in two sessions.

      First day out I noticed at the end of the day that my magazine follower was broken. Kahr sent me a replacement follower in two days.

      Second trip the range, and once again the mag follower was broken,but this time I noticed that the recoil spring was also broken! The tip had screwed off was missing, causing the spring to come apart.

      I'm amazed that the gun functioned flawlessly through 80 rounds with the mag follower and recoil spring in that condition.

      Emailed Kahr and Jay responded that he will send out a shipping label to return the gun for repair.

      How can I trust my life to this gun? I'm thinking of replacing the CM 9 with a Sig 938. I looked at one today and it is sweet!
      u answeredur own question asto how canu trust this gun. Thedamn gun worked withg a busted follower and a lost recoil assembly end cap. That should speak sumpin for the gun. It is very unusual that ur cm9 is breakingfollowers, as it has not been seenmuch in that model. It is a feed ramp thing and kahr will take care of that. that missing end cap, is what it is. IT CANHAPPEN. No doubt it wasnot installed correclty when made.

      Ae u absolutley sur eur sig 938 will perform the same way if any of these scenarios were the same?? I can understand your dissappoitment, but thatis why u have a warranty to. Kahr will make it righ, and they wlll take careof those twoissues. Itr seems thegun is working OK otherwise.

      IMO, take a deep breath, send the gu back let them fix it, giveit another trial run and then decide. Nuttin agains Sig either, they ake great stuff and I am not familiar with that model either, but I would et it would be hard pressed to be the size ad weight of ur cm9... Just my opinion. aqs usual it is ur call to make..
      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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      • #4
        Hate to see that happen. Thankfully mine has been flawless out of the box. In over six months and 1000 shots I've had one mag follower break. My fault it happened. Thought I would be truthful (best policy) and ordered a new one. They sent me 2 free. As great as mine has been and with their excellent customer service I'd sure give them a chance. I have a lot of guns but for some reason my CM9 has become a part of me. And I am a grouchy, very particular old fart.

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        • #5
          Jocko and gunshine:

          Thanks for your responses. You did actually make me feel better. I will follow your advice and send it back. Hopefully it will be fixed right.......I do really like everything about the gun, and you said it Jocko it still ran perfect even with the problems. Besides, I already bought a holster and 4 more mags with Pearce extensions.

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          • #6
            Losing faith in my CM9

            Originally posted by jocko View Post
            u answeredur own question asto how canu trust this gun. Thedamn gun worked withg a busted follower and a lost recoil assembly end cap. That should speak sumpin for the gun.
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            Absolutely!

            I've never had any of these issues. But, it is comforting to know, if/when I do, the gun will continue to function. The range IS the place to find this out.

            Get with Kahr, they'll make it right.



            RB
            RB

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            • #7
              Trust it...period. Its a good, and elegant design.

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              • #8
                I'm sure Kahr can fix it for you by gringing some feed ramp off. Just put some loctite or nail polish on the threads of the guide rod. The sig 938 would not have the same problems because the followers are metal and the recoil spring is retained by the spring tunnel not by a screwed on nut.

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                • #9
                  I even

                  Originally posted by Fodder View Post
                  ^
                  Absolutely!

                  I've never had any of these issues. But, it is comforting to know, if/when I do, the gun will continue to function. The range IS the place to find this out.

                  Get with Kahr, they'll make it right.



                  RB
                  forgot to mention it as it has been so so long ago. but my trusty PMJ9 broke a follower once and I never knew it was even broken. so I hav eno clue is it broke the day I dicided to take the mag down for cleaning or what. but that is what happened, I was giving the gun a complete cleaning and I thought I would take the mag aaprt and cleanit and out fell the follower in two parts. It had never failed on me one time either. I have over 32K through it now and never had that happen again.

                  sometiems it is easy to get pissed and vent but after one settle down somewhat and realizes that these fokking guns are parts that move, made by man, and sh!it just gonna happen. No maker is immune that I now of. My trusty G19 which is the most accurate gun I have ever shot had to go back once. I don't even think about it . being in the gun business myself for over 40 years and in the tire business for over 40 years. IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF THEM..
                  . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                  • #10
                    Imo

                    Originally posted by Buckshotshorty View Post
                    Jocko and gunshine:

                    Thanks for your responses. You did actually make me feel better. I will follow your advice and send it back. Hopefully it will be fixed right.......I do really like everything about the gun, and you said it Jocko it still ran perfect even with the problems. Besides, I already bought a holster and 4 more mags with Pearce extensions.
                    now ur kahr is gonna get amuch closer keen eye looking at it, than at first. Be sure and document all that u found to, so they have a trailt o follow, but IMO ur two issues are easily fixable. We know the gun works,

                    this ain't the first nut that has come off of the dual spring set up. Those assemblys come to kahr fully assembled. They are supposed tob e locktited on that cap end, evidently the person who was supposed to be doin that to yours was playing with himself. Just sayin
                    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                    • #11
                      Well, it's already been hit on the head that the thing just kept on goin like the energizer bunny... So might as well get it fixed under warranty, get it back, run it hard another 200 rounds, then a few boxes of carry ammo if if no other problems you got something that has proven it will do the job, even if it handicaps itself

                      Also... The 938 is a nice gun, but.... If you happen to be pocket carrying the kahr, you may end up not feeling as comfortable cocked and locked in a pocket, to much there for Murphy; both safety wise and potential to snag on the draw... Don't get me wrong the 938 is a nice one, just not something I find truly simplistic and user intuitive

                      Either way, kahr will do you right on warranty and the rest is what ever makes ya happiest
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                      • #12
                        oh indeed it is a single action 9. I forgot about that. twodifferent trigger systems indeed..
                        . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                        • #13
                          I've shot the Sig 938 and found it to be a real nice shootin pistol, well made and accurate. But I found it to be a tad small (for what I like) and short on round capacity. And the price tag is to much, IMO. Try and fix what ya have and dump as a last resort.

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                          • #14
                            is there a link that has an image labeled with ALL the little parts for Kahr? New to Striker fired or DAO

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                            • #15
                              Hang in there buckshot...it happen sometimes.
                              I've never had an issue with my Kahr, but...
                              I've sent back a Para, Taurus, Ruger and Kel Tec.
                              They all came back flawless and trustworthy
                              If a sign could stop evil….They’d make holsters for them!!

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