Is the availability of 9mm ammo getting any better? I've been unable to find any at our local Wal Mart since last fall, other than being one customer too late last week and missed the last 3 boxes of Federal 115 gr round nose ammo. I've been told by the clerks to be at the store very very early in the morning and get in line but so far haven't made it early enough. Not interested in getting a dozen boxes but would like to have 3-4 for a trip or two to the shooting range for final break-in on my new CM9.
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From what I've seen, I agree that you're more likely to find 9mm in stock at your LGS than at wally-w0rld. I've also had good luck with SGammo.com, LuckyGunner.com, Ammo.net and Bulkammo.com.
I don't know if it will still be there by the time you read this, but Cabela's has 9mm Winchester white box for 16.99/box right now.
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My nearest WW seems to have bailed on all firearms stuff. No ammo. No guns. Few accessories. Others might not be so bad. With that said ammo supply is definitely improving here in NE Ohio. 9mm and 22lr are not always in stock everywhere but they are available somewhere. Better yet, gun prices are falling. Saw a new Ruger Mini14 for $750 yesterday = $200 below sticker. Plenty of used guns available too. Usually on clearance. Just find the right LGS. If things haven't loosened up in your area yet, I'm sure it will soon.O|||||||O
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Originally posted by bassgunner View Postlgs seem to have better supply than walmart. i can usually find some in one of the local small shops, but you will pay a little more.Originally posted by dkmatthews View PostFrom what I've seen, I agree that you're more likely to find 9mm in stock at your LGS than at wally-w0rld. I've also had good luck with SGammo.com, LuckyGunner.com, Ammo.net and Bulkammo.com.
I don't know if it will still be there by the time you read this, but Cabela's has 9mm Winchester white box for 16.99/box right now.Diligentia Vis Celeritas
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Originally posted by QuackXP View PostThere have been local LGS's in my neck of the woods that have been sending employees to buy all the Wal-Mart ammo to resell at the shop.O|||||||O
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Based on what I've seen, it's definitely getting better. Still not to the point where you can walk into Walmart and grab a box or two whenever you want, but definitely better.
Ammo prices on gunbot.net have been steadily declining for a while. It used to be infrequent that you'd see anything below 40 cents a round, but now you can find stuff in the low 30s or even upper 20s pretty much all the time.
And I've seen 9mm ammo on the shelf in several gun stores recently -- not a lot, not particularly cheap, and not all the time, but it used to be it was never there at all.
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I Live in MN and work at a local indoor range a couple of days per week. I am hearing from customers that everything but .22 rimfire is showing up on the shelves. I was in a local Walmart a week ago and they had a three box limit but I grabbed a couple of boxes of Tula just to keep in my locker in case a customer needed any extra. $10.38/bx. I just left the same store and they had lot's of .40 in 50 and 100 ct. bxs."Never pet a burning dog"
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Glad to hear that someone is finding 9mm on the shelves. Someone told me that our local WM is selling Winchester White Box 100 rounds for $24.95, limit 3 boxes, when they are available. I did find some recently at a local pawn shop for $35 per 50 round box but didn't figure I was ready to pay that much of a premium yet.
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I bought with no real problem finding it on line or local for decent price:-2000 FMJ RN copper plated bullets $168 = 0.084 roundCost me about 0.205 cents a round or $10.25 per box of 50.
-5000 small pistol primers $280 = 0.056 round
-2 lbs of Winchester 231 powder (about 3000 rounds) $45 = 0.015
-1000 clean blazer brass $50 = 0.05
-350 dirty range brass (free - Brass is reusable if you pick it up)
My reloads are very high quality and I can control the load.
I bought my reloading gear in the last 6 months, about $350 total:
Press, Dies, Electronic Scale, Powder Measure, hand primer..... I already
owned calipers and micrometers.
Reloading is not for everyone. I find it enjoyable, often watching TV.
I have single stage press and do things in batches. The process is:-Remove fired primer with Lee Hand Press and de-primer dieDONE. Results, compared to factory Winchester, Federal, Remington
-Clean Case in ultasonic tank, rise, dry
(skip above step if starting with clean brass)
-Size Case (Press and Sizing Die)
-Install new primer (Lee Ego hand primer)
-Flair case to accept bullet (Press and flair die)
-Measure powder and fill case (Lee Perfect Measure & electronic scale)
-Seat Bullet (Press and bullet seating die)
-Crimp (Press and crimp die)
accuracy is as good, excellent. Gun operation, reliability, is perfect.
How long does it take. Well with pre-prepped cleaned brass cases, bullets,
power "thrower", electronic scale, press and dies (with quick change
bushings) it takes me about an 50 minutes to flair, power, seat and crimp
50 rounds. I am not racing and check my work often, more than I need
to, but that is what I do. If I checked powered weight less (relying on the
volumetric powder measure) I could cut this time by 10 or 15 minutes.
How long does it take to prep dirty brass cases and prime them? Hard to
say but I will say 4 minutes for 50. Not very labor intensive, but it takes
time running the ultrasonic cleaner (or tumbler if you prefer). I can prime
50 cases in about 8 minutes (Love the Lee Ergo Hand Primer). I can size
the case in about 8 minutes, so total is about 20 minutes, and total start
to finish 60-70 mins per box of 50. I clean, prime, size large batches, but
only do the flair, powder, bullet seating and crimp in smaller batches. If I
feel like doing 10, 20 or 50 I do as much as I like and stop. It takes more
concentration and need to get into a groove. Eventually I have 100's of
rounds.
You can buy a fancy progressive press and do 1000 rounds an hour. For
how much I shoot this single stage press is perfect. I have about $350 in
my gear. I don't include the cost of gear in cost per round, it's a hobby,
tools have resale value, and having custom ammo, all I need, priceless.
Bottom line I don't look for Ammo anymore... I have all I need for now.Last edited by gmcjetpilot; 07-13-2013, 05:00 AM.
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Gunbot.net has opened many options to me to out of state places over the last few months. Yes, you have to pay for shipping, but at least for us Kansans we don't seem to have to pay sales tax except for Cabellas as they have a store on the Kansas side of KC. I have 500 rounds being delivered Monday via UPS for $18 shipping. Local Walmarts have very little in any caliber, and I really don't want to go stand in line at 6:30 in the morning to be ready for the 7:00 ammo buying scrub.
Wish I knew more about Freedom Munitions, as they seem they seem to have the lowest prices right now for FMJ. But hard to plunk down the cash for 500 rounds without knowing about quality of ammo. Any experience out there using this ammo in PM9/CM9?
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