Some Kahr barrel comparison pictures

[wyntrout]

Well, I took a bunch of pictures of my Kahrs' barrels for comparison in case anyone is interested.
Wynn

[jmstallard]

Let me guess (top to bottom): 380, 9mm, 40, and 45?

[In-Yo-Grill]

I think it's .380, 9mm, 9mm and .45acp

[jlottmc]

Hard to tell in the pictures. I can do it from across the mall live, but have trouble in pictures unless it is really close up.

[jlottmc]

Yup 380 9mm 9mm and 45 acp.

[Pender1]

the name of the first pic is p380pm9k9pm45 so I'm gonna say that's models from top to bottom

nice pics by the way. really makes you appreciate how massive the .45 is.

[wyntrout]

One of my first thoughts when I had the .380 and .45 apart one day, was to see if the .380 barrel would fit into the.45 barrel, but it didn't. I didn't try the chamber, though. That might fit.
I compared the PM9 and K9 before because someone wanted to know if one would fit the other gun. They are really different and you can appreciate the sturdiness of the K9.
Wynn

[jlottmc]

You can however drop a round of 380 through the 45 barrel. I like to doe that when I go to the range and some one is touting their wonder 9 as the bestest thing since sliced bread. I then ask if they prefer to make lots of little holes or prefer to end a fight. They always reply that they want to end things quickly. I then ask to barrow a round of theirs, and drop it right down the barrel of my 45, and ask if they have any questions. You should see the jaws hit the ground.

[wyntrout]

I love the .45 and the big 230-grain bullets moving at 850 or so fps are enough for me. The smaller calibers can use the +P, especially with the short barrels.
It' amazing how .380 costs sometimes twice what .45 costs these days, considering .45s have two or three times the amount of metal and powder as the .380. I haven't seen any sub-$10 boxes of .45 acp lately, but I have seen Federal 9mm FMJ for $9.47 at Wally World. They had the Winchester White Box .45 FMJ 100-packs for $32.97. I had the clerk look on the shelf and if they had any .380 like that it would be about the same price as the .45.
The only .380 I have at the moment is 70 to 80 Buffalo Bore 90-gr JHP +P. The range does have "relatively" cheap .380 FMJ for range fodder, though. I think it was $20 for 50. I haven't tried that, yet, but I may have to when I get those stronger Keltec springs by Wolff. I hope they do the trick and stop the few FTFeed that I have have.
Wynn

[willowofwisp]

You can however drop a round of 380 through the 45 barrel. I like to doe that when I go to the range and some one is touting their wonder 9 as the bestest thing since sliced bread. I then ask if they prefer to make lots of little holes or prefer to end a fight. They always reply that they want to end things quickly. I then ask to barrow a round of theirs, and drop it right down the barrel of my 45, and ask if they have any questions. You should see the jaws hit the ground.

hmm so you think .45 is a better man stopper than 9mm? i would never count o na handgun round as a man stoppper whether its 9mm .357 or .45.

I rather carry a high capacity 9mm over a standard .45..what if theres more than one shooter? what if you miss? what if you hit him in the chest and he is still coming?

[jmstallard]

You can however drop a round of 380 through the 45 barrel. I like to doe that when I go to the range and some one is touting their wonder 9 as the bestest thing since sliced bread. I then ask if they prefer to make lots of little holes or prefer to end a fight. They always reply that they want to end things quickly. I then ask to barrow a round of theirs, and drop it right down the barrel of my 45, and ask if they have any questions. You should see the jaws hit the ground.

Then you probably won't agree with this guy: Observations from actual shootings.... - Glock Talk

[jlottmc]

It's just the size issue, and having been in fire fights I never recall having wished for a smaller weapon or less rounds. The way you talk it's as though the 45 is a single shot. I also carry two reloads, again BTDT. Personally I want a way to inject about 10+ lbs. of plastic explosive into them at long range. But you dance with who brung ya.

[PigButtons]

I'm really impressed with how much longer the lug area is on the K9 compared to the PM9. Wow, that is built like a tank and then some.

[DKD]

9mm Hi cap VS 45 ACP

Willowofwisp,

Here is the deal..... even with FMJ one or in a remote chance two shots center of mass with the 45 ACP pretty much ends the confrontation and the perp will most likely be on their back 75-78% of the time. Now throw in the newer hi tech rounds that ups the anti to around 90% plus with one round, end of story.
The 45 ACP won its reputation with hard ball as a fight stopper not because of velocity or expansion, but by bullet diameter and shear mass of the bullet, which tends to almost completely transfer all of its energy to a man size target with boring regularity unlike the speedier 380's & 9mm rounds.

You can't change the laws of physics......

[jkalantzis]

I think it is time to put a Dremel to those babies. I just did mine and it came out awesome. Give it a shot Wynn and watch those babies shine.