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  • #16
    Small takedown issue

    Originally posted by RevRay View Post
    The one thing I've noticed is that if I orient the end of the spring down it seems to stay put better. Keeping in mind that down is towards the top of the slide since I'm holding it upside down.
    This!!! x10. I was gonna post this.
    This place isn't safe.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by RevRay View Post
      The one thing I've noticed is that if I orient the end of the spring down it seems to stay put better. Keeping in mind that down is towards the top of the slide since I'm holding it upside down.
      Someone suggested this right after I got my CM9 a couple years ago. I've been doing it that way since with nary a problem.

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      • #18
        Went to the range again yesterday. This gun performed flawlessly - only wish I had been as good as the gun. Actually getting much better.

        Take down and reassembly after cleaning was perfect and smooth.

        I can't say enough about this gun. It is great to shoot and fits perfectly in my hand.

        Later gang.
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        • #19
          Great to hear, Mike. I love the Kahr triggers, but it's not like I'm a great shot with them. I shoot quickly and my eyes really limit my range these days. After 10 yards, I'm doing well to keep most on a sheet of paper, especially at 15 yards.

          Wynn
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          • #20
            Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
            It's economics... cheaper for the one-end-closed spring. The spring is designed for the closed end to GRIP the rear of the guide rod and the front OPEN end is loose to allow free movement of rod within the spring during recoil. Putting the spring in backwards risks the spring going over the flange and jamming the action. But... do what you want.

            Try putting your magazine springs in backwards, too, MAYBE that will work for you, too.

            Wynn
            I've put about 400 rounds through the gun with the spring reversed with no problems. The only time I've had a problem was with the open end forward. It can't possibly be that expensive to close both ends of the spring. Many inexpensive .22s have recoil springs closed on both ends. Every freaking push button ball point pen has the spring closed on both ends.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by RevRay View Post
              The one thing I've noticed is that if I orient the end of the spring down it seems to stay put better. Keeping in mind that down is towards the top of the slide since I'm holding it upside down.
              RR:

              Just to clarify, you are orienting the "open" end of the spring with the cut edge of the coil located nearest the barrel?

              As opposed to locating the cut coil edge away from the barrel?

              Curious minds want to know.

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              • #22
                I've disassembled my new CM9 probably 3-4 times now without any problems anywhere but this last time all at once I noticed the recoil spring was sticking out the end of the slide while I was trying to get it in place. I nearly panicked thinking I was either doing something wrong, heaven knows what though, or had damaged something.

                I did as suggested above and rotated the spring a little and everything went smoothly back together. Really glad to read the information on this thread cause now I'll know what to look for and how to do it. Thanks for all the excellent information.

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                • #23
                  I wonder how many times this has been discussed. Just lay the slide on a bench, table, counter top or whatever on the sights and insert the recoil assembly so the cut tip of the spring is against the under side of the front sight. Not that difficult.

                  The Wolff replacement recoil springs can be installed with the closed end forward because it doesn't have the "gripper" coil like the OEM springs. I have been using them like that for a couple of years. To each their own.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                    I've put about 400 rounds through the gun with the spring reversed with no problems. The only time I've had a problem was with the open end forward. It can't possibly be that expensive to close both ends of the spring. Many inexpensive .22s have recoil springs closed on both ends. Every freaking push button ball point pen has the spring closed on both ends.

                    Muggsy, thanks for your post.


                    Pretty rare to see a post asking Kahr why they just didn't go the extra mile. I have never had a hand gun that had this problem except my most recent purchase, my Kahr CM9. (My last count was a total of 45 hand guns).


                    By the same note, would it take just a few extra minutes to prep the gun before it leaves Kahr so that we don't need to use up 100's or in one case a poster said 2,000 rounds before they truly trust it.


                    I now have 3 magazines (2 6 rounder's and 1 7 rounder). Each one needed the follower smoothed (filed and sanded) on the right side so it would clear the magazine catch internally. (By the way, thanks for the tip Jocko)


                    Come to think of it, my first attempt with a Kahr several years ago had probably the same problem (hanging up 1/2 way through a magazine). Went back to Kahr for repair and it did the same thing when I got it back. I think that trade back to the dealer resulted in my first Sig 239.


                    Reminds me of when Harley's were very hard to get and the boasting around the club was "I waited 15 months" or "I waited 3 years". What's up with that.


                    Come to think of it, some of my other guns have sort of a "cult" following on their forums (hmm where have I heard the word "cult" before) but they don't put up with as near as much as you fine folks do.


                    Just some thoughts,


                    Trooper Joe

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